Square Enix needs to make a add-on detector!

[Apeachs]

This Massively Multiplayer Online game clearly need a anti cheat software (Addon detector). Those "innocent" mods are no longer so innocent anymore. Yesterday I was outside a FC house. "Oh you can place a item there if u have a third party tool". It maybe sounds innocent but it give players advantages over how its suppose to work.

[ameliaw]

This Massively Multiplayer Online game clearly need a anti cheat software (Addon detector). Those "innocent" mods are no longer so innocent anymore. Yesterday I was outside a FC house. "Oh you can place a item there if u have a third party tool". It maybe sounds innocent but it give players advantages over how its suppose to work.

"advantages"
It's just decoration, dude.

[FireMage]

stating fact that using third party applications is against TOS also known as cheating

Being against TOS doesn't automatically equate to cheating. Cheating requires an unfair advantage to be present. I already went over this with you

[TheRealMadruck]

Being against TOS doesn't automatically equate to cheating. Cheating requires an unfair advantage to be present. I already went over this with you

First you stating that you've gone over this with me when I can't even remember we have ever replied to one another is quite funny. If you have replied to me before, then let me respond again. The context of this discussion and my thread is specifically about add-ons, not about just TOS. But Firemage, I have seen responses like yours all the time and where you obfuscate/deflect from the actual original talking point. I'll repeat it one more time so it's clear

This is about add-ons, not just TOS. Hopefully you understand now.

[drtasteyummy]

This subject pops up so often that I'm never sure if they're troll, just DC difference or general hyper overacting.

a) If SE they would care, which shocker they don't (and assuming that they really don't want to install an anti cheat), they could threaten to sue all dalamud reps, github projects, FF14 logs, discords, bot sellers and ACT and oh boy after some patches 95% of it would be gone.

b) ACT works as a cheap DBM so stop lying and act like 99.9% of all players would use some WoW AVR addon just because you saw one video of a guy with cheats that is not even public.

c) Why do people still care about other players PvE, if they want to play like this with drawing shit and all the things so be it, it doesn't affect you, nobody cares if u cleared this raid or have that glowing weapon it's your own achievement.
If you're still indoctrinated from WoW that you have to be the first to show off that you're the absolute min max 0.1% king then maybe the game is just wrong for you?

d) You can even blame SE themselves for that best example if they hate logging so much why introduce such tight dps checks?

[LianaThorne]

This Massively Multiplayer Online game clearly need a anti cheat software (Addon detector). Those "innocent" mods are no longer so innocent anymore. Yesterday I was outside a FC house. "Oh you can place a item there if u have a third party tool". It maybe sounds innocent but it give players advantages over how its suppose to work.

There is literally no advantage, you can replicate most if not all of the stuff done in said deco plugin with floating...which is available to everyone in game and there's even tutorials on YouTube that shows how to do it (console players can even do it!). All the plugin does is shorten the process.

Can't we go one thread about people cheating in savage without throwing everyone else under the bus at the same time? That is the actual issue more than someone wanting to put a Namazu statue on their roof.

[Wolwosh]

I get what you mean.
I joined an Ultimate static and was very disappointed to learn they were using Cactbot and other cheat mods.
They were open about it too, it wasn't just a hunch I had.
So ofc they learned much faster and got frustrated with me because I was learning the mechanics slower, implying they were actually learning the fight
I just left and decided to not bother with Ultimate anymore, got quite boring after a while anyway

[DivineP]

I get what you mean.
I joined an Ultimate static and was very disappointed to learn they were using Cactbot and other cheat mods.
They were open about it too, it wasn't just a hunch I had.
So ofc they learned much faster and got frustrated with me because I was learning the mechanics slower, implying they were actually learning the fight
I just left and decided to not bother with Ultimate anymore, got quite boring after a while anyway

This is exactly why I don't do harder content.

I'll do day one stuff because it's fun as everyone is learning - really looking forward to the Criterion stuff!

After it gets cleared a few times and add-ons appear I don't bother - I can't keep up, people that use Addons and people get snippy. Not worth the hassle.

[FireMage]

First you stating that you've gone over this with me when I can't even remember we have ever replied to one another is quite funny. If you have replied to me before, then let me respond again. The context of this discussion and my thread is specifically about add-ons, not about just TOS. But Firemage, I have seen responses like yours all the time and where you obfuscate/deflect from the actual original talking point. I'll repeat it one more time so it's clear

This is about add-ons, not just TOS. Hopefully you understand now.

And I'll repeat myself since you need it. Cheating requires an unfair advantage. Until you can prove that, your point is dismissed. NEXT

[drtasteyummy]

This is exactly why I don't do harder content.

I'll do day one stuff because it's fun as everyone is learning - really looking forward to the Criterion stuff!

After it gets cleared a few times and add-ons appear I don't bother - I can't keep up, people that use Addons and people get snippy. Not worth the hassle.

Assuming they cleared it a few times before the addons they don't need the addons, assuming you have cleared the content why can't you keep up with addons for reclears,
assuming you just practised and they reclear it which you can't keep up with you for real think it's because of addons? megaCopium