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    TheRealMadruck's Avatar
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    Firkmann Solksthalsyn
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    Square Enix needs to make a add-on detector!

    Let me make this short and sweet...
    In my honest opinion, if you use add-ons you are cheating. Add-ons is why I no longer do Savage raids. The lack of add-ons is why I came to play Final Fantasy XIV from World of Warcraft starting with beta.

    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.

    Now the main motivation for this for me stems from my own experience. I play 14 on the PS5. I don't play on PC like I used to because of accessibility issues. PS5 players cannot use add-ons and many do also play on PS5 would also like to use add-ons but can't(even if I wouldn't recommend it). And yet again, this gives PC players an unfair advantage doing content especially if they use add-ons.

    I already know I'm going to get vitriol for this post, but I don't care because I will speak facts. If you use add-ons, Square Enix needs to implement a detector for those add-ons and you need to be penalized for cheating because that's exactly what you're doing. There is no Gray zone to this, using computer programs to give you prompts in fight mechanics is nowhere near equatable to any other thing other than botting.

    If you cheat, you should face the consequences of you cheating because it's exactly what add-ons are in ff14!
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    I guess it's my fate as a Dark Knight. Soon, I won't even feel any remorse for my actions!-Cecil Harvey-FFIV DRK

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    Miyu Bubbles
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    Ok Karen.
    Maybe you would play better if you stopped paying so much attention to other people's reactions during a raid.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Obvious bait, but some add-ons/plugins are not for 'cheating', but rather for accessibility. Some aspects of the game are difficult to see or process mid-battle (like the colour difference between your own DoTs/debuffs and someone else's), and using something to help you see better doesn't mean you're cheating.

    People can use add-ons to cheat, but not all add-ons are cheats. Know the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.
    or maybe they have done it enough times to know how to do the mechanic properly? i do not understand this. in most endgame content, you have to do flawless timing in order to avoid the mechanics. why is your first response that they are cheaters?
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    Odderan Gedesud
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    Agreed! Let's hurry up and get rid of retextures / poses since those are add-ons. They are breaking ToS, after all.

    When these types of posts pop up I can't help but wonder how low their numbers are.
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    Echo Micacho
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    Ah another TheRealMadruck thread we know and love from other highlights as:

    "Island Sanctuaries demonstrates unhealthy play styles that's alarming!"

    "Endwalker Early Access Is As Bad If Not Worse Than New World Launch!"
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.
    Remember guys: If you dodge mechanics, you're cheating.
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Let me make this short and sweet...
    In my honest opinion, if you use add-ons you are cheating. Add-ons is why I no longer do Savage raids. The lack of add-ons is why I came to play Final Fantasy XIV from World of Warcraft starting with beta.

    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.

    Now the main motivation for this for me stems from my own experience. I play 14 on the PS5. I don't play on PC like I used to because of accessibility issues. PS5 players cannot use add-ons and many do also play on PS5 would also like to use add-ons but can't(even if I wouldn't recommend it). And yet again, this gives PC players an unfair advantage doing content especially if they use add-ons.

    I already know I'm going to get vitriol for this post, but I don't care because I will speak facts. If you use add-ons, Square Enix needs to implement a detector for those add-ons and you need to be penalized for cheating because that's exactly what you're doing. There is no Gray zone to this, using computer programs to give you prompts in fight mechanics is nowhere near equatable to any other thing other than botting.

    If you cheat, you should face the consequences of you cheating because it's exactly what add-ons are in ff14!
    Not every add on is cheating. Those are actual facts. Your opinion regarding that is irrelevant. I also love that you assume that people that play better than you, which is likely most that do Savage content, is cheating. You sound more like someone that wants to drag others down to their level instead of improving, a toxic casual, if you will
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    Zabu Jinjahl
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    I have more than 200 attempt in clear party to try to clear p7s, I can do the mechanics 100% correct without issue, am I cheating?
    Instead of worry about that, worry how to do more DPS, optimize rotation, improve yourselves as player and enjoy the community.
    By the way, I do not think they are able to make add on detector, since that is detecting client side, won't that be illegal?
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Square Enix needs to make a add-on detector!
    Only way they can do this is to install a root kit on Windows PCs. I'd strongly rather they don't do this.

    My objection to those root kits is far greater than caring about someone cheating.
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