Square Enix needs to make a add-on detector!

[Ransu]

Meanwhile SE is using Windower to showcase FFXI, lmao.

The game allows you to window it and tab out of it now. Why would they need to use windower?

[Midareyukki]

The game allows you to window it and tab out of it now. Why would they need to use windower?

Windower is a launcher that enables Plugins for FF11. You know... Like -redacted-, which our devs kinda don't want us to use.

[LilyPendragon]

Now the main motivation for this for me stems from my own experience. I play 14 on the PS5. I don't play on PC like I used to because of accessibility issues. PS5 players cannot use add-ons and many do also play on PS5 would also like to use add-ons but can't(even if I wouldn't recommend it). And yet again, this gives PC players an unfair advantage doing content especially if they use add-ons.

Talk about crabs in a bucket mentality

[LittleImp]

Aaaaaand it's irrelevant. This would only matter if you hadnt enough time based on the legit tells any attack has. Is cactbot cringe? Yes. Does it warrant infecting the game with anti cheat? No. Anticheat doesnt prevent cheating, no game dev is winning that arm's race. More competent people have tried and failed. Anti cheat however will cause tons of problems for people who arent cheating, always have.

I never agued in favor of an anti-cheat.

It just gets old watching people try to justify that a program that automates and shortcuts aspects of the games combat (which is explicitly prohibited by the developers) somehow isn't cheating. Most of the people that argue in favor of these kinds of programs very obviously have little to no understanding of how they work, or how obvious it is when someone is crutching on it.

[P0sitr0nic]

why is your first response that they are cheaters?

"IF I CAN'T DO IT, NO ONE CAN! WAAAAH!" Is usually the mindset in this kind of thing. Those who can't, often and usually claim no one else could either.

[LianaThorne]

The amount of people I have literally seen justifying using add-ons on this thread during initial fights when they first appear during a patch drop and intentionally conflating this with knowing a fight because you've done it a hundred times for example is absolutely incredible to me.

They will intentionally defend by every metric what is cheating by knowing the mechanics ahead of time during their initial first time doing a fight and yet somehow they consider it not cheating. Just wow!

Might as well crusade against YouTubers at that point because you can easily watch a video and learn the fight before going in. Is that cheating too? Smh. Xeno literally had a P5S clear guide up within four hours of savage launching.

You don't know if someone is using plugins or not when you're running with a group unless you can physically see or hear the plugin. Some people have godly reflexes, some people just can assume how mechanics work based on previous experience with it in other fights (limit cut is a great example since that appears in multiple). My entire static for P5S & P6S did homebrew blind strats and finished both within the first couple of days...are we all just running cact? Lmao.

You underestimate how good some people in the community can be and that's a shame.

[Petite]

Let me make this short and sweet...
In my honest opinion, if you use add-ons you are cheating. Add-ons is why I no longer do Savage raids. The lack of add-ons is why I came to play Final Fantasy XIV from World of Warcraft starting with beta.

It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.

Now the main motivation for this for me stems from my own experience. I play 14 on the PS5. I don't play on PC like I used to because of accessibility issues. PS5 players cannot use add-ons and many do also play on PS5 would also like to use add-ons but can't(even if I wouldn't recommend it). And yet again, this gives PC players an unfair advantage doing content especially if they use add-ons.

I already know I'm going to get vitriol for this post, but I don't care because I will speak facts. If you use add-ons, Square Enix needs to implement a detector for those add-ons and you need to be penalized for cheating because that's exactly what you're doing. There is no Gray zone to this, using computer programs to give you prompts in fight mechanics is nowhere near equatable to any other thing other than botting.

If you cheat, you should face the consequences of you cheating because it's exactly what add-ons are in ff14!

I agree to some extent that using cactbot and triggers really does give you an advantage over others, else people wouldn't use them in the first place besides for accessibility. But your reasoning for quitting savage raiding doesn't make sense to me.

That's like quiting cycling because some people use electric-assisted bicycles. Sucks you're not playing on an even field, but why would you bar yourself from doing stuff you like because of others? As long as it doesn't affect how the devs design their fights like it does in WoW, it doesn't truly matter.

[Nexxus]

I still remember that time at the 2.0 when Yoshi.P did promise to gives access to addon into the game and gave players some joy, but we never saw it, and now it exists, the promise long await that is now forbidden...
As for me, i stopped playing end game, because it's giving me headache, with some ADHD troubles, i can't concentrate on the battlefield, there's to much information coming from everywhere. i wished i could have legal addon for that...

[NekoMataMata]

We must hunt down the add-on users! Ruin their lives, ban their accounts!

[Wolwosh]

This is exactly why I don't do harder content.

I'll do day one stuff because it's fun as everyone is learning - really looking forward to the Criterion stuff!

After it gets cleared a few times and add-ons appear I don't bother - I can't keep up, people that use Addons and people get snippy. Not worth the hassle.

Not everyone does.
I made my own static and we're all on the same page.
I don't really care what other people do, as long as it doesn't effect me, and in my case it did.
High and mighty Cactbot guys think they're hot sh*t, until their add-ons don't work on patch day and are suddenly sick