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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    I don't remember any such promise.

    I do remember that at every query about adding a DPS meter into the game the answer is a firm "no".

    Of course, it may be your misinterpretation of a comment in passing that also included references to third-party addons at some point in the discussion. A promise? I won't believe it until you show me the actual words in a reference I can look up. You'll have to be very specific with the search terms or provide an actual link.
    I remember them saying that during a live a letter on some UI mods. In the most recent patch we actually got one i want to say

    quick edit:

    https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xiv...tro-1848901844

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0c5d56cb2e4547 <-- under Enhancements to the HUD and Other UI Elements
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    Last edited by Axxion; 09-13-2022 at 10:16 PM.
    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Just wanted to add to this - no thank you.

    An add detector would invade the privacy of the player and cause the entire XIV experience to be soured for the majority due to a minority. No thanks.

    Add-ons are against the TOS. Those that use it are risking their account. That has been enough of a deterrent for the entire life-cycle of the game so far. If those that get caught get banned, they knew what the risks were.

    The entire game's population's privacy shouldn't be sacrificed due to a few people being unhappy. Thankfully, Yoshi agrees. Also thankfully, if they added this, it would shut the game down in some of the countries it's currently open in. So hopefully, this never happens - nor should it.
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    Us filthy PC players and all our add-ons! Every single one of us uses a cheat add-on to raid because we're bad!

    Or we don't use any at all and we're just not brain dead, who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    This Massively Multiplayer Online game clearly need a anti cheat software (Addon detector). Those "innocent" mods are no longer so innocent anymore. Yesterday I was outside a FC house. "Oh you can place a item there if u have a third party tool". It maybe sounds innocent but it give players advantages over how its suppose to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    This Massively Multiplayer Online game clearly need a anti cheat software (Addon detector). Those "innocent" mods are no longer so innocent anymore. Yesterday I was outside a FC house. "Oh you can place a item there if u have a third party tool". It maybe sounds innocent but it give players advantages over how its suppose to work.
    "advantages"
    It's just decoration, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    This Massively Multiplayer Online game clearly need a anti cheat software (Addon detector). Those "innocent" mods are no longer so innocent anymore. Yesterday I was outside a FC house. "Oh you can place a item there if u have a third party tool". It maybe sounds innocent but it give players advantages over how its suppose to work.
    There is literally no advantage, you can replicate most if not all of the stuff done in said deco plugin with floating...which is available to everyone in game and there's even tutorials on YouTube that shows how to do it (console players can even do it!). All the plugin does is shorten the process.

    Can't we go one thread about people cheating in savage without throwing everyone else under the bus at the same time? That is the actual issue more than someone wanting to put a Namazu statue on their roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    stating fact that using third party applications is against TOS also known as cheating

    Being against TOS doesn't automatically equate to cheating. Cheating requires an unfair advantage to be present. I already went over this with you
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Being against TOS doesn't automatically equate to cheating. Cheating requires an unfair advantage to be present. I already went over this with you
    First you stating that you've gone over this with me when I can't even remember we have ever replied to one another is quite funny. If you have replied to me before, then let me respond again. The context of this discussion and my thread is specifically about add-ons, not about just TOS. But Firemage, I have seen responses like yours all the time and where you obfuscate/deflect from the actual original talking point. I'll repeat it one more time so it's clear

    This is about add-ons, not just TOS. Hopefully you understand now.
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    This subject pops up so often that I'm never sure if they're troll, just DC difference or general hyper overacting.

    a) If SE they would care, which shocker they don't (and assuming that they really don't want to install an anti cheat), they could threaten to sue all dalamud reps, github projects, FF14 logs, discords, bot sellers and ACT and oh boy after some patches 95% of it would be gone.

    b) ACT works as a cheap DBM so stop lying and act like 99.9% of all players would use some WoW AVR addon just because you saw one video of a guy with cheats that is not even public.

    c) Why do people still care about other players PvE, if they want to play like this with drawing shit and all the things so be it, it doesn't affect you, nobody cares if u cleared this raid or have that glowing weapon it's your own achievement.
    If you're still indoctrinated from WoW that you have to be the first to show off that you're the absolute min max 0.1% king then maybe the game is just wrong for you?

    d) You can even blame SE themselves for that best example if they hate logging so much why introduce such tight dps checks?
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