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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Square Enix needs to make a add-on detector!
    Only way they can do this is to install a root kit on Windows PCs. I'd strongly rather they don't do this.

    My objection to those root kits is far greater than caring about someone cheating.
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    OK dude, let's pipe down a little. Just because you see someone dodge everything perfectly, doesn't mean they're using add-ons. I mean, have you DONE the first Savage fight this tier? You need to literally go over where he's gonna jump to, just to identify the couple of safe spots. Yes, I'm assuming Carby's gender. Anyway, then there's the 4-square Ruby mechanic where you have to find out where the safe spots are in order.

    Do you really think everyone who is able to successfully complete these mechanics is using add-ons? Or have they maybe done that same mechanic repeatedly over and over again to the point that they know WHEN it happens, and exactly WHERE?

    It's called learning the fight. The people you believe to be using add-ons have just died more than you have. Maybe stop blaming them and get good, scrubling.
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    They can't without making something that checks whats installed on a users computer.



    People have a basic human right to privacy, what's installed on their machines is no business of a Video Game developers.

    Packaging software with their game that allows them to see what's on your machine is ILLEGAL and would get them in a whole world of legal trouble.



    Law Enforcement need a high court warrant and reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed to be able to spy on someone like that, Square Enix is just a video game developer.
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    Last edited by NightHour; 09-14-2022 at 10:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Let me make this short and sweet...
    In my honest opinion, if you use add-ons you are cheating. Add-ons is why I no longer do Savage raids. The lack of add-ons is why I came to play Final Fantasy XIV from World of Warcraft starting with beta.

    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.

    Now the main motivation for this for me stems from my own experience. I play 14 on the PS5. I don't play on PC like I used to because of accessibility issues. PS5 players cannot use add-ons and many do also play on PS5 would also like to use add-ons but can't(even if I wouldn't recommend it). And yet again, this gives PC players an unfair advantage doing content especially if they use add-ons.

    I already know I'm going to get vitriol for this post, but I don't care because I will speak facts. If you use add-ons, Square Enix needs to implement a detector for those add-ons and you need to be penalized for cheating because that's exactly what you're doing. There is no Gray zone to this, using computer programs to give you prompts in fight mechanics is nowhere near equatable to any other thing other than botting.

    If you cheat, you should face the consequences of you cheating because it's exactly what add-ons are in ff14!
    Sorry but knowing when mechanics happen isn't a addon thing.
    Every fight is heavily scripted, you can tell whats gonna happen from doing them hundreds of times.
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    Pls don't hurt the tanktop cleavage mod
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    Press F to respect OP's grave. The ICBMs have been launched and they're already dead on arrival.
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    How dare people know a scripted fight so intimately that they can respond to mechanics with a fair amount of precision. Damn it, how dare they. The audacity.. they definitely must be cheating
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    Thought I'd join in for this one!

    Whilst it is my personal opinion, I don't care if people are using add-ons. It does not affect me as a PlayStation user until they use certain add-ons to try and ridicule my gameplay.

    I am however strongly against certain ones that basically light up areas to stand in fights.

    Damage meters are another, whilst they can be used for self progression which is true, they can also be weaponised in higher content to exclude others and therefore those people who are ridiculed do not participate again. This in my opinion lowers the amount of people doing higher end content.

    We then come to the Whole PC has all these little add-ons and PlayStation does not. PC therefore has an advantage in the content doing their mechanics thanks to been basically shown on their screen, whilst PlayStation has to watch the bosses actions, animations, cast bar and the arena.

    Square has stated they do not wish for anyone to use these - in turn are slowly adjusting their UI. This has been shown in the charactar models (can't remember the live letter) and also the recent adjustable size on your action timers.

    In the recent events with the markers, I totally stand with SE. Wasn't it basically a maphack due to been out of bounds? While they cannot see everyone who uses add-ons for it they can certainly trace it to the source.

    There was also someone who had party buff timers in DSR that got caught. I think it's fair to say that if you do it for one you do it for another.

    This is all just my opinion though. It is nice to see SE taking a stance on their game and their rules so everyone can play in an equal and friendly environment.
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    Remember when Squenix promised to take the addons used and implement them into the base game so people wouldn't need to turn to third party tools for features that really should be standard to begin with?

    I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Remember when Squenix promised to take the addons used and implement them into the base game so people wouldn't need to turn to third party tools for features that really should be standard to begin with?

    I do.
    I don't remember any such promise.

    I do remember that at every query about adding a DPS meter into the game the answer is a firm "no".

    Of course, it may be your misinterpretation of a comment in passing that also included references to third-party addons at some point in the discussion. A promise? I won't believe it until you show me the actual words in a reference I can look up. You'll have to be very specific with the search terms or provide an actual link.
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