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    P0sitr0nic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomkei View Post
    why is your first response that they are cheaters?
    "IF I CAN'T DO IT, NO ONE CAN! WAAAAH!" Is usually the mindset in this kind of thing. Those who can't, often and usually claim no one else could either.
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    Agreed! Let's hurry up and get rid of retextures / poses since those are add-ons. They are breaking ToS, after all.

    When these types of posts pop up I can't help but wonder how low their numbers are.
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    Ah another TheRealMadruck thread we know and love from other highlights as:

    "Island Sanctuaries demonstrates unhealthy play styles that's alarming!"

    "Endwalker Early Access Is As Bad If Not Worse Than New World Launch!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Ah another TheRealMadruck thread we know and love from other highlights as:

    "Island Sanctuaries demonstrates unhealthy play styles that's alarming!"

    "Endwalker Early Access Is As Bad If Not Worse Than New World Launch!"
    It's funny how you post this as some form of attempt to think my points weren't valid based on the times and the subjects that I actually brought up.

    But this comes no surprise from players like this who will try to discredit a person's opinion not by actually speaking on what is being said but merely by implication.

    Very pathetic Ranaku!

    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Remember guys: If you dodge mechanics, you're cheating.
    Why do people who reply to my posts tend to have like the reading comprehension of a 2 year old? I sincerely want to know. I directly stated mods that give you mechanical prompts for boss fights i.e. lighting up an entire zone to tell you where to go so you can avoid mechanics.

    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Not every add on is cheating. Those are actual facts. Your opinion regarding that is irrelevant. I also love that you assume that people that play better than you, which is likely most that do Savage content, is cheating. You sound more like someone that wants to drag others down to their level instead of improving, a toxic casual, if you will
    Another person who again fails to read my post on how I gave specific examples on the type of mods that I was speaking on. Absolutely amazing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Obvious bait, but some add-ons/plugins are not for 'cheating', but rather for accessibility. Some aspects of the game are difficult to see or process mid-battle (like the colour difference between your own DoTs/debuffs and someone else's), and using something to help you see better doesn't mean you're cheating.

    People can use add-ons to cheat, but not all add-ons are cheats. Know the difference.
    Remember everyone, it's considered bait stating fact that using third party applications is against TOS also known as cheating and sharing your personal opinion on how you find it to be detrimental to the game that you enjoy. Nowadays I am not shocked at all how many people who play this game adamantly support cheating specifically when I'm talking about add-ons that give you mechanics during boss fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by ameliaw View Post
    "advantages"
    It's just decoration, dude.
    These are the type of posts I'm talking about. Actual players of 14 defending using third party add-ons against the very nature and rules of the game. It's not just decoration, it's having abilities no one other than you has against design.
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    Last edited by TheRealMadruck; 09-13-2022 at 05:24 PM.
    I guess it's my fate as a Dark Knight. Soon, I won't even feel any remorse for my actions!-Cecil Harvey-FFIV DRK

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Why do people who reply to my posts tend to have like the reading comprehension of a 2 year old? I sincerely want to know. I directly stated mods that give you mechanical prompts for boss fights i.e. lighting up an entire zone to tell you where to go so you can avoid mechanics.
    Spare me.
    People have been clearing EX and Savage for years, even on PS3 without any addon for Coils and Alexander. You can also find many clears throughout the years of Ex, Savage and Ultimate with people using no addons.

    Get over it.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 09-13-2022 at 07:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.
    Remember guys: If you dodge mechanics, you're cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Remember guys: If you dodge mechanics, you're cheating.
    BLMs rise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
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    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Remember guys: If you dodge mechanics, you're cheating.
    Dangit, I knew I was doing something wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Let me make this short and sweet...
    In my honest opinion, if you use add-ons you are cheating. Add-ons is why I no longer do Savage raids. The lack of add-ons is why I came to play Final Fantasy XIV from World of Warcraft starting with beta.

    It has gotten so bad, that when you go into any pug instance with other players you can actually see who has almost flawless timing avoiding mechanics. Hence cheating.

    Now the main motivation for this for me stems from my own experience. I play 14 on the PS5. I don't play on PC like I used to because of accessibility issues. PS5 players cannot use add-ons and many do also play on PS5 would also like to use add-ons but can't(even if I wouldn't recommend it). And yet again, this gives PC players an unfair advantage doing content especially if they use add-ons.

    I already know I'm going to get vitriol for this post, but I don't care because I will speak facts. If you use add-ons, Square Enix needs to implement a detector for those add-ons and you need to be penalized for cheating because that's exactly what you're doing. There is no Gray zone to this, using computer programs to give you prompts in fight mechanics is nowhere near equatable to any other thing other than botting.

    If you cheat, you should face the consequences of you cheating because it's exactly what add-ons are in ff14!
    Not every add on is cheating. Those are actual facts. Your opinion regarding that is irrelevant. I also love that you assume that people that play better than you, which is likely most that do Savage content, is cheating. You sound more like someone that wants to drag others down to their level instead of improving, a toxic casual, if you will
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    I have more than 200 attempt in clear party to try to clear p7s, I can do the mechanics 100% correct without issue, am I cheating?
    Instead of worry about that, worry how to do more DPS, optimize rotation, improve yourselves as player and enjoy the community.
    By the way, I do not think they are able to make add on detector, since that is detecting client side, won't that be illegal?
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