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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Which is why they don't work. They present an illusion of choice.

    Also, healers in DPS stance wasn't the common thing. It kind of was for SCH, but was much less used by AST and especially WHM. Back in ARR, WHMs were dedicated healers of that type. In ShB, it's kind of drifting back that way due to Lilies and how they work as GCD heals, but it's kind of a half-position. HW healer balance was just...stupidly bad. SB was horribad for WHM.
    According to Mr Happy, who I consider as a more trustworthy source than you sorry not sorry, it kinda started off being more of a common thing in dungeon runs during ARR and absolutely became a common thin during HW and when I started during HW, it was the first thing I learned about FF14 Healers, that they DPS. Again, you are pulling a WoW Classic fallacy, attributing player incompetence in a new game to game design. I tell you, if we would get ARR classic now, you would see White Mages dpsing at the very least over half the time in Raids now and people pulling kills that would have been considered impossible back in the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    IMHO the core thing that needs to be addressed is breaking the 'need' to be smashing the dps button mindlessly.

    Right now, there's just no reason not to be smashing Glare/holy as fast as the GCD will allow for 99% of the time you spend in combat. Until that fundamental detail changes, things aren't going to improve much IMO.

    As for how to do that, that's the difficult part as I honestly don't think there's an route that's going to suit everyone.
    the issue is, that increasing heal requirements to a point where you have a high gcd healing uptime, you would see most of the people who fight against healers havin dps rotations and priding themselves for being pure healers right now probably being locked out of the role permanently due to being incapable of fullfilling these requirements. Thats why people advocate for some more dps buttons instead, because it wouldn't affect pure healers much but would do a great deal of increasing the engagement for anyone else.
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    Last edited by T-Owl; 10-07-2022 at 08:39 PM.