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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Owl View Post
    Oh, actually that one is easy. You think you want that, but you really don't. Blizzard tried this model out back during Vanilla WoW with the Holy Paladin. Players hated it and felt miserable being basically nothing but buffbots. Being a pure supporter does sound more fun than it actually is.
    There's an irony to you saying this - considering one thing we've learned is that when Blizzard Devs said "You think you want that, but you really don't", what we've seen pay out is that players did, in fact, want that. For years Devs said this about Classic, but Classic is arguably more popular than Retail. Moreover, keep in mind that Holy Paladins in OG Vanilla DID NOT HEAL. They didn't even get in combat. Their role was to stay OUT OF COMBAT and cast occasional buffs, which were something like one every 5 minutes.

    Contrast that with a hypothetical AST that has Cards as GCDs with no CD and short duration buffs that they can cast as "filler" instead of Malefic. Are you seriously going to tell me that you'd find present day Maleficspam more enjoyable than buffing your party members with those GCDs instead? At the very least, the buffing would require more APM as you'd actually be targeting and applying the buffs to party members, which would already make it more engaging than Maleificspam, would it not?

    Like if we changed literally nothing else about AST - still had the oGCD kit they have today, still have Combust, etc - just the only change was that Cards can now be spammed as your filler instead of pressing Malific over and over again as your filler. Are you seriously ready to argue that would be LESS engaging than Malefic spam during downtime/filler?

    I'd seriously give AST a second look if this was the case since I find buffing party members to be much more engaging and fun in terms of class/role fantasy of being a supporter.

    So you basically want to be carried while contributing the least compared to other classes, who have to perform more complex rotations while at the same time doing boss mechanics.
    See this?

    Don't do this again.

    Ever.

    (And you call me toxic and aggressive? Seriously: Don't do this again.)

    There's a saying in the military: An army marches on its stomach. What this means is that without logistics, all wars are lost causes. Your argument here is essentially if you aren't a front line rifleman, you aren't contributing to the war effort and you aren't needed. Yet an army of only riflemen will lose every war. The fact you have a child's level of understanding of this topic is obvious, but if you press this button again, I'm going to be much more...direct...in slapping it down. This is thrice you've now done it, and Thrice Comes Ruin.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 10-03-2022 at 11:18 AM.