Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
You said you wanted the gauge to build up to damage. Even if SCH's gauge is underwhelming...
I stopped here because it is right here you acknowledge my issue with the fairy gauge. Everything else you mentioned has no bearing on the matter.


SCH hasn't moved on lmfao, why do you think people ask for these things back? It's because they STILL fit into how Scholar plays today....
Again, I cut the quote off here because you lost sight of fact. Unless you can explain how abilities that are no longer usable in the game still fit. Because you want them to fit doesn't mean they'll fit. I used to fit in my high school jeans. I want to be able to fit in them. They still don't fit though.

Do you see what I'm getting at? People ask for these things not because they're in love with the concept of poison magic
This sir, is likely the most compelling argument I see made. It really is too bad it is almost always followed up with this...

but because the healers haven't moved on. They're continually limping along. They're the bare minimum requirement for a healer. That's all they are. They've had fun things taken away from them, and they've been given nothing in exchange. These jobs haven't moved on at all, and it's comical to suggest otherwise.
You immediately express your inability compromise, and anyone who has a view that differs from your own is "comical". You try to invalidate these views, yet expect understanding and sympathy in return? You could have just stopped with players liking the idea of poison magic. I can listen to that, and possibly even add some suggestions of my own. But nope. Your energy is instead devoted into silencing anything that disrupts to flow of negativity. You can't even fathom how a player can still have fun playing a healer.

I asked because when discussing things like "viability" it's important to know whether or not someone does the content that they're making these assumptions about. What keeps Scholar viable is not the fact that Miasma's potency was consolidated into Biolysis, it's Chain Stratagem and how the current meta favors rDPS and crits above all and jobs that benefit from it, like SCH. You could even remove Energy Drain (at least for last tier, it will be a while before we have the numbers for this tier) and SCH would still out DPS SGE due to how busted Chain is and how much rDPS it contributes to SCH - Energy Drain is only like a 5% variance on SCH's DPS and SCH is out DPSing SGE without it entirely.

But yes, you can get offended as much as you like to believe I have a "savage tier epeen" but I ask because I've played Scholar in savage last tier, and I played it in savage in Shadowbringers. I'm doing Black Mage this tier on my alt that has no healers at all because I don't want to contribute to any metrics they have for healers any longer, but I can show the proof that I've played Scholar at a Savage level this expansion. I asked because I was legitimately curious - is this tier different for Scholar on a level where regaining more of its lost DPS kit would render it unviable? Regardless, I never said it would be viable (it absolutely would, Chain keeps SCH meta in Savage regardless if it has 1 DoT or 5), but I get it, you make assumptions about content you don't do.
I assure you, no offense was taken here. I know you want me to be hurt, to feel rejected, and invalidated. That is why some players are so quick to go to savage logs, clears, and the like when they have nowhere else to go to with their arguments. When I say, "I don't need to run savage." What I am telling you is that I won't have my arguments about a job being fun, and talking about its lore be invalidated because I haven't cleared the most recent savage floor. Is that ok with you? Do you even have fun in savage? With all the drama going down with illegal addons, bans, players demanding transparency with dev testing, nerfs to the final boss, time dedication for statics, etc. etc. etc. I'm not exactly champing at the bit to hop into the content because of all the "fun" it seems to be full of.