Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
No we haven't seen them cause damage, but I also wasn't being strict that the damage had to come from Lily. Only that she be involved somehow with the animation.
You said you wanted the gauge to build up to damage. Even if SCH's gauge is underwhelming, it is still for healing. The faerie doesn't need to have damage at all. Scholar is the only healer left with healing priority that isn't "lol just touch your GCDs last" and that would ruin it. Are you someone who likes Energy Drain? Then you should understand how healing priority plays into how Scholar interacts with Aetherflow. Are you someone who hates Energy Drain? Then you should see why turning a free healing source into damage would ruin it. Leave the faerie alone. Get rid of the gauge before giving them damage abilities. The opportunity cost of a lost Embrace alone is enough for me to hate it. (coincidentally part of the reason Fey Union and the gauge suck in general).

Sure it has. It's the players pining for 3.x SCH that have remained stagnant. The rest of the game, and SCH has moved on. Going on five years now.
SCH hasn't moved on lmfao, why do you think people ask for these things back? It's because they STILL fit into how Scholar plays today. Scholar of 3.x or 4.x is the Scholar of 6.x with faeries no longer on the petGCD and a gutted DPS kit. That's minorly reductive, but it's true. The job hasn't evolved. That's the problem. You know why you can't just slap Bio and Miasma back on SMN? Because they reworked the job entirely and there's no where for GCD DoTs to fit rotationally. SCH could have Miasma, Bane and Shadow Flare added back TOMORROW and it wouldn't break the flow of Scholar. You could add back Quickened Aetherflow and it wouldn't break the flow of Scholar, and actually with how much of a DPS gain Energy Drain is this expansion, Quickened Aetherflow would be a massive QoL for SCH that would make it way more fun to play and give it more to think about as Aetherflow would be a 45s resource instead of a 60s one that is always up for 2 minute burst windows to be dumped.

Do you see what I'm getting at? People ask for these things not because they're in love with the concept of poison magic, but because the healers haven't moved on. They're continually limping along. They're the bare minimum requirement for a healer. That's all they are. They've had fun things taken away from them, and they've been given nothing in exchange. These jobs haven't moved on at all, and it's comical to suggest otherwise.

Holster your savage tier epeen bud. I merely said I was not sure if it would be viable, but just because you say it is, doesn't make it so. I don't need to run savage or ultimate to know that SCH's offensive kit was consolidated into Broil and War. I don't need to run savage to know that if SCHs old kit was just thrusted back into their repertoire, they would need some serious adjustments, to you know, make it viable for content.
I asked because when discussing things like "viability" it's important to know whether or not someone does the content that they're making these assumptions about. What keeps Scholar viable is not the fact that Miasma's potency was consolidated into Biolysis, it's Chain Stratagem and how the current meta favors rDPS and crits above all and jobs that benefit from it, like SCH. You could even remove Energy Drain (at least for last tier, it will be a while before we have the numbers for this tier) and SCH would still out DPS SGE due to how busted Chain is and how much rDPS it contributes to SCH - Energy Drain is only like a 5% variance on SCH's DPS and SCH is out DPSing SGE without it entirely.

But yes, you can get offended as much as you like to believe I have a "savage tier epeen" but I ask because I've played Scholar in savage last tier, and I played it in savage in Shadowbringers. I'm doing Black Mage this tier on my alt that has no healers at all because I don't want to contribute to any metrics they have for healers any longer, but I can show the proof that I've played Scholar at a Savage level this expansion. I asked because I was legitimately curious - is this tier different for Scholar on a level where regaining more of its lost DPS kit would render it unviable? Regardless, I never said it would be viable (it absolutely would, Chain keeps SCH meta in Savage regardless if it has 1 DoT or 5), but I get it, you make assumptions about content you don't do.