Thread: 6.21 notes/8th circle save/ mch

Ähm, when 50% of players are trying savage, how can than be 100% of all Player being doing savage?

And so easy isnt normal content.
Last week wiped one group multiple times by the second pandae ini, because one tank didnt wanted to do the instans anymore. And wasnt able to leave.
It come to wipes in normal content, when the Tank dont use stance.
My Partner and i had it many times, that the healer died and it would have come to a wipe, would the Paladin/warrior be able, to heal themself (whe need the free use of phönix feather, for the case, the healer dies).

It is true, that normal is lesser hard than savage. But, it is not so easy ( it need zo be easier, esspecial, when you do it daily).
But, it is simply because, this stuff is on "normal". And become with each week easier (because of higher ilvl).

Savage is simply hard mode (and a pain in the ...) and is even becoming easier with each week. Mch can wait, until the Ilvl is high enough, if they make to less dmg (and, who cares if the mch make lesser dmg, when the other make the balance, at the end is it only matter, if the content is cleared and he can attack the whole time, caster and meele can not do that). Why bothering with hard stuff, when you can have the same end result later, with easier content?

Originally Posted by Keichi

Ähm, when 50% of players are trying savage, how can than be 100% of all Player being doing savage?

And so easy isnt normal content.
Last week wiped one group multiple times by the second pandae ini, because one tank didnt wanted to do the instans anymore. And wasnt able to leave.
It come to wipes in normal content, when the Tank dont use stance.
My Partner and i had it many times, that the healer died and it would have come to a wipe, would the Paladin/warrior be able, to heal themself (whe need the free use of phönix feather, for the case, the healer dies).

It is true, that normal is lesser hard than savage. But, it is not so easy ( it need zo be easier, esspecial, when you do it daily).
But, it is simply because, this stuff is on "normal". And become with each week easier (because of higher ilvl).

Savage is simply hard mode (and a pain in the ...) and is even becoming easier with each week. Mch can wait, until the Ilvl is high enough, if they make to less dmg (and, who cares if the mch make lesser dmg, when the other make the balance, at the end is it only matter, if the content is cleared and he can attack the whole time, caster and meele can not do that). Why bothering with hard stuff, when you can have the same end result later, with easier content?

I’m assuming English isn’t your first language because that’s a turn of phrase, “the playerbase is 100% there” is just an overly fancy way of saying “the playerbase of savage is big enough to support squares decision to balance around savage”

And wiping in normal mode doesn’t make it not easy, it’s either a mistake or someone who is just really bad, that still doesn’t change that content is Balanced around savage because it’s the only content that requires balancing, if classes are poorly balanced in savage they are poorly balanced. And you still still haven’t offered any rebuttal to the fact that “melee don’t have downtime this tier” or the fact that if casters and melee should both do more damage than the phys ranged why are the casters also doing such crap damage right now

Caster did crap dmg?
Arent they allways mid lvl in the statistics? How should the people even know, how much dmg they are doing (you need 3. party tool for it, and using it is risking a ban).

And ranger have a other advangte over meele (or fast attacking classes). They can have greater distance and can see more of the battlefield. That can help them to survive things. Where meele maybe didnt noticing it and dies.

At last is it for myself, that i survive avoidable things better with distance fighter, as the meele. With a meele is my mindset often only in attack mode and i stop to watch my surroundings (or the camera is to near, to notice things).
With caster and ranger is it other ways. I see more and notice more. Esspecial with the slower blm.

Dnc and BRD are probally good, as long as they have enough/good partner. The mch is coming better, the more people died and have the debuff (because he has the strongest dmg for his own, from the rangers).

More dmg is allways good. But i think, that it shoulnd come so close to caster. Or even to meele.

Originally Posted by Keichi

Caster did crap dmg?
Arent they allways mid lvl in the statistics? How should the people even know, how much dmg they are doing (you need 3. party tool for it, and using it is risking a ban).

And ranger have a other advangte over meele (or fast attacking classes). They can have greater distance and can see more of the battlefield. That can help them to survive things. Where meele maybe didnt noticing it and dies.

At last is it for myself, that i survive avoidable things better with distance fighter, as the meele. With a meele is my mindset often only in attack mode and i stop to watch my surroundings (or the camera is to near, to notice things).
With caster and ranger is it other ways. I see more and notice more. Esspecial with the slower blm.

Dnc and BRD are probally good, as long as they have enough/good partner. The mch is coming better, the more people died and have the debuff (because he has the strongest dmg for his own, from the rangers).

More dmg is allways good. But i think, that it shoulnd come so close to caster. Or even to meele.

SMN and RDM do around the same damage as the physical ranged and BLM is around the level of a very weak melee, casters being middle of the pack is ShB balance

And if a ranged is far out for no reason they are just missing healing, I’m not single target healing you because you stood in narnia whatever your reasoning for standing there is, fact is there is really no valid reason for any class to be outside the boss hitbox unless a mechanic demands it another point against the ranged tax

DNC BRD RDM and SMN need to be doing around what RPR is doing now, MCH around the same maybe a bit higher towards DRG, BOM should be up with MNK