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  1. #41
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    I will probably sound pessimist but I am so afraid of what changes they will do to Paladin in 6.3 just to "fit" in the whole burst thing.

    Hopefully my fears are just misplaced
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    I will probably sound pessimist but I am so afraid of what changes they will do to Paladin in 6.3 just to "fit" in the whole burst thing.

    Hopefully my fears are just misplaced
    If this entire expansion so far is anything to by, your fears are entirely justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    I will probably sound pessimist but I am so afraid of what changes they will do to Paladin in 6.3 just to "fit" in the whole burst thing.

    Hopefully my fears are just misplaced
    Same, it is really worrying to me as a paladin main. Wouldnt surprise me to see BLM get changed to fit buff windows too in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexnidaral View Post
    Kind of a disappointing way to "fix" the issues players were having without actually substantively addressing the concerns players have around job balance.
    Glad it got nerved savages suck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    I will probably sound pessimist but I am so afraid of what changes they will do to Paladin in 6.3 just to "fit" in the whole burst thing.

    Hopefully my fears are just misplaced
    Seeing what SE did to Healers and SMN, I really doubt those fears are missplaced.
    Not playing PLD myself, but get ready to loose what mechanical identity it has left in favour of matching up to the devs vision of its job Fantasy and an attempt at Balance.
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    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Such a flex. "Our team got gud."
    The post was also acknowledging that players would likewise get good after they had a similar amount of time to do the content.

    At least SE has a team devoted to thoroughly testing Savage content before release to make certain that it can be cleared on release. Then there's Blizzard's "whack-a-mole" approach... (just release it then we'll start making changes after seeing what roadblocks the world first teams).

    Either way, players like knowing why things went wrong, not just what went wrong. This time, they got a pretty direct answer.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-13-2022 at 06:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The post was also acknowledging that players would likewise get good after they had a similar amount of time to do the content.

    At least SE has a team devoted to thoroughly testing Savage content before release to make certain that it can be cleared on release. Then there's Blizzard's "whack-a-mole" approach... (just release it then we'll start making changes after seeing what roadblocks the world first teams).

    Either way, players like knowing why things went wrong, not just what went wrong. This time, they got a pretty direct answer.
    I, and I'm sure many others, are still very curious to know what comp their testing team was using, but I don't reckon they'll ever reveal that kind of info. We'll just be left to wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I, and I'm sure many others, are still very curious to know what comp their testing team was using, but I don't reckon they'll ever reveal that kind of info. We'll just be left to wonder.
    I've always gotten the impression they use a few different comps during testing so all jobs end up represented (but not all combinations of those jobs). I could be wrong, of course.

    But they definitely aren't going to share that information. They don't want to feed player obsession with meta comps.

    If players want to feed their own obsession, they can always go to FFLogs to see if there were any jobs not represented at all in week 1 clears, and which jobs were the most represented.
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    usually they own up to their own mistakes but passing the blame onto the players because of atrocious job balance resulting in mathmatically impossible dps checks for some comps is really really bizarre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I've always gotten the impression they use a few different comps during testing so all jobs end up represented (but not all combinations of those jobs). I could be wrong, of course.

    But they definitely aren't going to share that information. They don't want to feed player obsession with meta comps.

    If players want to feed their own obsession, they can always go to FFLogs to see if there were any jobs not represented at all in week 1 clears, and which jobs were the most represented.
    I dunno, the idea that they use a variety of different comps doens't jive with their statement about this tier.
    They claim to have spent a long time figuring out this fight and using that to determine the check, which tells me they had the same comp throughout, like a typical static might.

    If they managed to spend as much time as they're implying optimising their runs on multiple comps, then they might actually be god gamers
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