Thread: Patch 6.21 Job Adjustments Overview:

WAR chads keep winning!

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Not really?

This is a rather small buff overall. It leaves Warrior is last place, still noticeably behind both Gunbreaker and Dark Knight. Just not so far behind they're borderline unviable.

WAR probably shouldn't be doing the damage GNB or DRK is doing.

Originally Posted by Oizen

WAR probably shouldn't be doing the damage GNB or DRK is doing.

Why? The only things it has going for it at this point are self-healing and Holmgang, both of which get slapped with the gimp stick by mechanics currently being employed in savages. That aside, damage is the name of the game. Not playing the jobs with the highest damage output is in effect actively choosing to hamper your team, whether you're able to clear like that or not. The lion's share of raiders are aware of this, and the decisions they make will be informed by this understanding. Keeping WAR and PLD behind DRK and GNB, especially by such a wide margin, is functionally the same as telling people not to play them.

Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Why? The only things it has going for it at this point are self-healing and Holmgang, both of which get slapped with the gimp stick by mechanics currently being employed in savages. That aside, damage is the name of the game. Not playing the jobs with the highest damage output is in effect actively choosing to hamper your team, whether you're able to clear like that or not. The lion's share of raiders are aware of this, and the decisions they make will be informed by this understanding. Keeping WAR and PLD behind DRK and GNB, especially by such a wide margin, is functionally the same as telling people not to play them.

Because if we ever see a meta where WAR is doing the same or more damage than GNB or DRK then the other two will be dropped entirely for the sheer utility that WAR brings to the table.
And then we'll get into a further homogenization meta where very single Invul will have to be 240s CD and every Tank will have to have Nascent Flash/Bloodwhetting.

Originally Posted by Marxam

Idk about that. WAR hasn't been winning ever since Berserk got nerfed to the ground back in SB. I also like how they say WAR is a burst tank when clearly DRK is not the burst job. The definition of burst has changed from ARR to EW. In ARR "burst" meant a single target attack that deals high damage i.e. Berserk + Inner Beast. In EW "burst" means how much damage can you fit in a small window of time. In the current definition of burst, DRK is a burst tank. You only need to do a single souleater combo and double weave edge, ShB to see the stark difference in damage, vs WAR doing SE combo and double weaving onslaught/upheaval.

TLDR; if you can double weave Fell Cleaves between your gcds you are a burst job.

I'd consider all of them except paladin burst jobs, they all deal a majority of their damage in a short time window aka in bursts. Warrior just isn't very good at it.

Originally Posted by Absurdity

I'd consider all of them except paladin burst jobs, they all deal a majority of their damage in a short time window aka in bursts. Warrior just isn't very good at it.

PLD is being pushed into a burst job as well, since they keep buffing the magic rotation and leaving the whole physical behind. I imagine with .3 changes they'll make it completely bursty and fit the 2mins window, and maybe get rid of FoF and goring completely.

Originally Posted by Tlamila

PLD is being pushed into a burst job as well, since they keep buffing the magic rotation and leaving the whole physical behind. I imagine with .3 changes they'll make it completely bursty and fit the 2mins window, and maybe get rid of FoF and goring completely.

They probably will since I'm pretty sure they still think their forced 2 minute meta is the greatest thing ever, and current paladin just doesn't fit into that.