Garlean Outposts (Spoilers)

[Ath192]

Any idea what they are going to do with the zones that have active garlean outposts? Mor Dhona/Northern Thanalan comes to mind. It doesn't make sense in the map anymore.

[RyuDragnier]

By the devs own admission, they're stuck in a "time bubble" in a sense. They're all exactly where they were we finished the zones. Meaning the Castrum in Mor Dhona is still occupied by Garlean troops ready to attack us, in terms of a zone sense. But in actual lore sense, as told by the RPR story, they've been engaging in trade (in a sense) with Ul'dah. They sell Ceruleum to Ul'dah for profit, and then buy things from elsewhere (likely Mor Dhona or the Garland Ironworks). Because while Ul'dah has rules to not sell to Garleans...there's nothing about BUYING from Garleans.

[SentioftheHoukai]

By the devs own admission, they're stuck in a "time bubble" in a sense. They're all exactly where they were we finished the zones. Meaning the Castrum in Mor Dhona is still occupied by Garlean troops ready to attack us, in terms of a zone sense. But in actual lore sense, as told by the RPR story, they've been engaging in trade (in a sense) with Ul'dah. They sell Ceruleum to Ul'dah for profit, and then buy things from elsewhere (likely Mor Dhona or the Garland Ironworks). Because while Ul'dah has rules to not sell to Garleans...there's nothing about BUYING from Garleans.

Something tells me those rules, which were last brought up in ARR (from which many, many plot points and arcs have been thus abandoned) are no longer in effect. Garlemald as a nation is defunct, if not it's people.

[RyuDragnier]

Something tells me those rules, which were last brought up in ARR (from which many, many plot points and arcs have been thus abandoned) are no longer in effect. Garlemald as a nation is defunct, if not it's people.

I don't think the guys stuck in that castrum know. Also the rules weren't just last brought up in ARR, they were literally brought up in the Reaper job questline THIS expansion.

[Midareyukki]

By the devs own admission, they're stuck in a "time bubble" in a sense. They're all exactly where they were we finished the zones. Meaning the Castrum in Mor Dhona is still occupied by Garlean troops ready to attack us, in terms of a zone sense. But in actual lore sense, as told by the RPR story, they've been engaging in trade (in a sense) with Ul'dah. They sell Ceruleum to Ul'dah for profit, and then buy things from elsewhere (likely Mor Dhona or the Garland Ironworks). Because while Ul'dah has rules to not sell to Garleans...there's nothing about BUYING from Garleans.

So... going off of headcanon and theory:
- Terncliff Garleans are still around because we kicked Valens's butt but haven't fully cleaned them out of the premiss.
- The 4th Legion remnants still roam around Bozja's wastelands and ruins, having also infiltrated Dalmascan society waiting to pounce back to action and claim the regions again
- The guys on Azys Lla's Castrum Solus are still there because "Ooh, we can use this information to make stuff of our own!"
- I got nothing for Castrum Occidens nor Cape Westwind.
- Fluminis should be deserted by now, but I think there still are some Garleans in the vicinity.
- And I assume the guys at Castrum Centri joined the guys in Castrum Meridianum in the trade with Ul'dah.
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[Cleretic]

My take is that they're still in Garlean control, but that said control may have changed hands a few times. Remember that Werlyt brings up Caestrum Marinum as now being in VIIth legion control.

The exact nature of the hostile mobs are still kinda time-bubbly, since by nature they still have to remain, but it does explain why people like that would be there and why they haven't been demolished: diplomatically speaking that's still someone else's house. It'd also make some sense for Garlemald to retain it; however they get back on their feet, it's probably going to require trade with outside nations, so the various Caestrums would treat them well as trading posts. Especially since we know they have a train network between some.

[RukoBoshi]

I wish they could updated Festus dialogue (the soldier from garlemald embassy in Kugane). He's still calling me a savage and telling me to back off.

[SannaR]

I wish they could updated Festus dialogue (the soldier from garlemald embassy in Kugane). He's still calling me a savage and telling me to back off.

It would be nice if they updated that guy and those in front of the Thavnairian Embassy.

[RukoBoshi]

It would be nice if they updated that guy and those in front of the Thavnairian Embassy.

Oh yes, forgot about these. They probably should give them an entirely different new outfit, they don't look like people we've seen at Radz-at-han at all.

[JeanneOrnitier]

Oh yes, forgot about these. They probably should give them an entirely different new outfit, they don't look like people we've seen at Radz-at-han at all.

I'd honestly change the Thavnairian Embassy's design too, even just a little bit. I get that it's an official government building so needs to look the part, but it's still not really got anything Thavnairian about it.