Garlean Outposts (Spoilers)

[Ath192]

Any idea what they are going to do with the zones that have active garlean outposts? Mor Dhona/Northern Thanalan comes to mind. It doesn't make sense in the map anymore.

[RyuDragnier]

By the devs own admission, they're stuck in a "time bubble" in a sense. They're all exactly where they were we finished the zones. Meaning the Castrum in Mor Dhona is still occupied by Garlean troops ready to attack us, in terms of a zone sense. But in actual lore sense, as told by the RPR story, they've been engaging in trade (in a sense) with Ul'dah. They sell Ceruleum to Ul'dah for profit, and then buy things from elsewhere (likely Mor Dhona or the Garland Ironworks). Because while Ul'dah has rules to not sell to Garleans...there's nothing about BUYING from Garleans.

[SentioftheHoukai]

By the devs own admission, they're stuck in a "time bubble" in a sense. They're all exactly where they were we finished the zones. Meaning the Castrum in Mor Dhona is still occupied by Garlean troops ready to attack us, in terms of a zone sense. But in actual lore sense, as told by the RPR story, they've been engaging in trade (in a sense) with Ul'dah. They sell Ceruleum to Ul'dah for profit, and then buy things from elsewhere (likely Mor Dhona or the Garland Ironworks). Because while Ul'dah has rules to not sell to Garleans...there's nothing about BUYING from Garleans.

Something tells me those rules, which were last brought up in ARR (from which many, many plot points and arcs have been thus abandoned) are no longer in effect. Garlemald as a nation is defunct, if not it's people.

[Cleretic]

My take is that they're still in Garlean control, but that said control may have changed hands a few times. Remember that Werlyt brings up Caestrum Marinum as now being in VIIth legion control.

The exact nature of the hostile mobs are still kinda time-bubbly, since by nature they still have to remain, but it does explain why people like that would be there and why they haven't been demolished: diplomatically speaking that's still someone else's house. It'd also make some sense for Garlemald to retain it; however they get back on their feet, it's probably going to require trade with outside nations, so the various Caestrums would treat them well as trading posts. Especially since we know they have a train network between some.

[RukoBoshi]

I wish they could updated Festus dialogue (the soldier from garlemald embassy in Kugane). He's still calling me a savage and telling me to back off.

[SannaR]

I wish they could updated Festus dialogue (the soldier from garlemald embassy in Kugane). He's still calling me a savage and telling me to back off.

It would be nice if they updated that guy and those in front of the Thavnairian Embassy.

[MikkoAkure]

The XIVth legion outposts in Eorzea don’t necessarily exist in a time bubble.

Gaius van Baelsar went against the wishes of the Empire (Varis, before he got his throne) when he invaded Eorzea again and soon after taking over the old VIIth legion outpost from 1.0 and establishing his own, he became cut-off from the rest of Garlemald due to blockades and being deep within enemy territory. At the end of ARR when Ultima is defeated and Gaius deserted his own legion to go kill Ascians, that left much of the XIVth abandoned in Eorzea with no way back and likely not even a way to communicate with the homeland.

They’re nothing more than bandits now. In post-ARR dialogue, Raubahn and the Eorzea Encyclopedia mention that the soldiers left behind have dug in and haven’t gone anywhere. Even if they did receive the calls to return to the Empire to participate in both civil wars over the throne, they didn’t really have the ability to do so or the leadership to organize around. Some escaped Eorzea to join the VIIth, but obviously not all of them were able to.

[RukoBoshi]

It would be nice if they updated that guy and those in front of the Thavnairian Embassy.

Oh yes, forgot about these. They probably should give them an entirely different new outfit, they don't look like people we've seen at Radz-at-han at all.

[JeanneOrnitier]

Oh yes, forgot about these. They probably should give them an entirely different new outfit, they don't look like people we've seen at Radz-at-han at all.

I'd honestly change the Thavnairian Embassy's design too, even just a little bit. I get that it's an official government building so needs to look the part, but it's still not really got anything Thavnairian about it.

[RyuDragnier]

Something tells me those rules, which were last brought up in ARR (from which many, many plot points and arcs have been thus abandoned) are no longer in effect. Garlemald as a nation is defunct, if not it's people.

I don't think the guys stuck in that castrum know. Also the rules weren't just last brought up in ARR, they were literally brought up in the Reaper job questline THIS expansion.