Fix PLD's Rotation

[Undeadfire]

Are you here to be civil? Or are you here to waste time over petty subjects? "Omg ACT against TOS", "Fflogs against TOS".

JP, EU, NA raiders, all of them use ACT/Fflogs, SE aren't going to go through hell to ban everyone remotely involved with Savage raiders, content would die in a matter of months.

People getting banned using Twitch are from pretentious white knight players like yourself reporting them for using ACT, resulting them to hide it on their stream to silence those annoyances, either way SE can't really stop it overall. Come back in 5 years and the results will still remain the same, getting really tired of purist players. Classic MMORPGs older than WOW have used parsers, WOW used parsers.

Edit: A better answer, you are not clearing early weeks of Savages if you're out right refusing parsers, or rolling low performance. In other words solid raid groups will not take you, merely just say no soon you request, solid raid groups back ground check everyone.

Edit2: Just stop please, getting really bored with the same argument over the years and progressed nowhere since the start.

[Martynek]

The game that destroyed the MMO genre used parsers

You got me real convinced there mate. How's that working out for WoW? O-oh... yeah, haha...

[Undeadfire]

You got me real convinced there mate. How's that working out for WoW? O-oh... yeah, haha...

Since you intend to waste time with troll posts, this is entirely inaccurate.

WOW dropped severely thanks to Blizzard not caring about it's quality of content, etc and putting cash shops in front of everyones screens in game. Nothing to do with the parser. None of them were killed by parsers, only decrepit old age, whatever you got against parsers is purely your own issue to deal with, as I said it's mandatory in the raiding community.

Now back on topic.

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Paladin can keep it's rotation, all it needs is potency tuning to make Atonement severely a lot higher in it's attack power, and tune down Holy Spirits so Atonement is the overall bigger number, Goring will hit before the raid buffs fall off. Holy Spirit numbers need cutting down to prevent GCD drifting off, skipping 1 GCD twice in a fight in SHBs actually pushed it's aDPS higher, or no skipping for full focus rDPS. All in all that's all Paladin needs, is gcd fixing. It was syncing raid buffs long before EW.

[Martynek]

(Clueless headcanon and "it wasn't me, honest!" shitposting about raiders somehow not being the death of every game they touch)

ok

Paladin can keep it's rotation, all it needs is (funamental alterations to its rotation and gameplay)

i see, i see.

[Mithron]

Paladin can keep it's rotation, all it needs is potency tuning to make Atonement severely a lot higher in it's attack power, and tune down Holy Spirits so Atonement is the overall bigger number, Goring will hit before the raid buffs fall off. Holy Spirit numbers need cutting down to prevent GCD drifting off, skipping 1 GCD twice in a fight in SHBs actually pushed it's aDPS higher, or no skipping for full focus rDPS. All in all that's all Paladin needs, is gcd fixing. It was syncing raid buffs long before EW.

I actually really like PLD's rotation, and I liked Holy Spirit more when it was the same potency as Atonement. I like when PLD is mostly consistent damage with a small minor burst with Confiteor combo. I don't want PLD to be "forced" into this 2 minute party burst window, and instead would rather see the 2 minute party burst window removed and every job be more about individual rotations again.

[Rithy255]

I actually really like PLD's rotation, and I liked Holy Spirit more when it was the same potency as Atonement. I like when PLD is mostly consistent damage with a small minor burst with Confiteor combo. I don't want PLD to be "forced" into this 2 minute party burst window, and instead would rather see the 2 minute party burst window removed and every job be more about individual rotations again.

While this is a nice sentiment, I somewhat agree that we should avoid job design into 2 minutes, right now it's just not a realistic argument.
The only way Paladin is going to work in burst meta is to become a burst job, not like in 7.0 if they stepped away from burst meta they could revert changes and make Paladin into a more sustained job.

At this point I'd think something like fight or flight would be majorly buffed instead of something like atonement as you use atonements and stuff outside of your burst, while current FOF is more your second weaker burst right now, they could switch it with req, reduce reqs effectiveness.

While I don't like the idea that plds magic phase, the new flashy thing! is weaker It's a much better solution then reworking PLD's entire kit, like removing FOF wouldn't sit well with me.
I think what's going to happen is either FOF will be removed or changes like removing goring blade ect, a lot they could "look at" we just gotta hope it isn't too drastic but also helps address PLDS issues, we can't have PLD be a sustained job in a burst meta, we need to look for ways to get rid of "burst meta"