Fix PLD's Rotation

[Undeadfire]

RDM prepulls acceleration. BLM prepulls sharpcast. RPR has Soulsow. AST has to prepull draw. NIN has to prepull Huton>Hide and get Suiton ready. DNC starts their dance prepull. I've seen discussion about <1s IR on WAR, but I'm not sure about it.

So disregarding WAR, that makes PLD one of 7 jobs that has to prepull an ability. It is not an outlier. So what makes it badly designed? Just because you do not personally like it is not indicative of anything objective.
If you do not like prepull prep, play a different job instead of trying to fuck up something that other people enjoy.

Irrelevant.

A lot of these jobs can adapt an instant pull, it's not optimal but can adapt. Pld? It cannot. Goring/Intervene/Expiacion is severely weaker without FoF addition and one of it's main damage sources, and Fof must not be touched until 7 GCDs after Blades if it was not pre popped, that is garbage design. I don't need to keep explaining why SHBs Pld worked, it was pretty much on perfection except some abilities being a button bloat. 5.0 Pld was literally on GNB/DRK tier and could effectively beat them, or be on par.

Paladin got driven out of P8S week 1 clears, it's pick rate is 2nd to Mch, it's rotation is an absolute mess since Holy Spirit became the dominant force. The original rotation of Paladin cannot be used either.

I want to Paladin to be good, not a griefing tank.

[Martynek]

Paladin got driven out of P8S week 1 clears, it's pick rate is 2nd to Mch

I want to Paladin to be good, not a griefing tank.

Irrelevant, all this information is based on bottom-rung players that want to push around other players to make up for their own shortcomings. "Oh, sorry I'm not pulling my weight, you're gonna have to switch job to make up for it!" There were plenty of PLDs and WARs in week 1 clears of this tier and that should be evidence enough that there is not a significant issue.
The only reason any job is getting "bullied out of comps" is because of WoWbrained troglodytes that would commit murder for a 2% damage increase.

Compromising the design of one of the most interesting and thoughtfully designed jobs in the game to cater to these "people" is an absolutely laughable idea and I'm disgusted that SE is even considering it. But then again, I suppose it's okay for this to happen as long as it's not BLM on the chopping block, isn't it?

[george357]

well this dumpster fire of a topic is going nowhere time to leave and hope they fix war and pld.

[Undeadfire]

Irrelevant, all this information is based on bottom-rung players that want to push around other players to make up for their own shortcomings. "Oh, sorry I'm not pulling my weight, you're gonna have to switch job to make up for it!" There were plenty of PLDs and WARs in week 1 clears of this tier and that should be evidence enough that there is not a significant issue.

Really? Plenty of Plds? Only 3 Plds managed to on week 1. The rest received a Disband, or could not week 1, or switch to GNB/DRK. Warrior? 6 managed to, same treatment.

The only reason any job is getting "bullied out of comps" is because of WoWbrained troglodytes that would commit murder for a 2% damage increase.

Huh? What are you even on about... Fflogs states how pitifully low PLD has been vs GNB/DRK, it's griefing to one trick it. Or better yet, it was near 1k behind GNB/DRK in Aphodelos.

Compromising the design of one of the most interesting and thoughtfully designed jobs in the game to cater to these "people" is an absolutely laughable idea and I'm disgusted that SE is even considering it. But then again, I suppose it's okay for this to happen as long as it's not BLM on the chopping block, isn't it?

It's being considered because Pld is hardly getting picked, dumped or JP saying it simply sucks.