Impossible to escape gold.

[Portions]

Before anyone gets cranky, I got crystal in previous seasons. It was arduous at times, but it wasn't uncommon to have solid upward progress.

For my part, I'm going to have to vote an emphatic "no" on splitting the ranks in two tier sets. I got to gold in two nights, and I've been deadlocked at gold 4 since. Even when I got a few wins going yesterday, I spawned into a nice 1v5 match just as a subtle f u to any chance of a streak bonus, because the game considers that an entirely fair match where I just didn't play well enough instead of declaring unreasonable matches null.

The main issue I see is that you can be a fantastic player (which I'm not, but I am better than average and have the screencaps to demonstrate it), and by default when you hit gold you're statistically more likely to be paired with players who are on the left side of the bell curve. While I don't think the previous system was perfect by any means, a wider spread of skill levels meant that regardless of where you are personally, you're more likely to make progress if you keep at it even IF you are being somewhat carried. The new system basically means that skilled players bottleneck at gold and are by design playing with people who are not climbing out of bronze, and as a result personal contribution means less. Not less than it means in frontline, but the implied point of a ranked system is some level of meritocracy. For me personally, my interest in CC will wane pretty significantly if devs continue in the direction of your skill and experience making it less likely for you succeed.

[Towa-Musa]

Before anyone gets cranky, I got crystal in previous seasons. It was arduous at times, but it wasn't uncommon to have solid upward progress.

For my part, I'm going to have to vote an emphatic "no" on splitting the ranks in two tier sets. I got to gold in two nights, and I've been deadlocked at gold 4 since. Even when I got a few wins going yesterday, I spawned into a nice 1v5 match just as a subtle f u to any chance of a streak bonus, because the game considers that an entirely fair match where I just didn't play well enough instead of declaring unreasonable matches null.

The main issue I see is that you can be a fantastic player (which I'm not, but I am better than average and have the screencaps to demonstrate it), and by default when you hit gold you're statistically more likely to be paired with players who are on the left side of the bell curve. While I don't think the previous system was perfect by any means, a wider spread of skill levels meant that regardless of where you are personally, you're more likely to make progress if you keep at it even IF you are being somewhat carried. The new system basically means that skilled players bottleneck at gold and are by design playing with people who are not climbing out of bronze, and as a result personal contribution means less. Not less than it means in frontline, but the implied point of a ranked system is some level of meritocracy. For me personally, my interest in CC will wane pretty significantly if devs continue in the direction of your skill and experience making it less likely for you succeed.

welcome to elo hell You can be good at pvp but you can't carry all the deadweight by yourself

[Xel]

First, it was instant Q, now it's the 20s, soon it will be 1 minute, then 5 mins, then 10, then never. The mode is dead unless they get rid of the Gold Lock and De-Rank Dream Mode.

[Osmond]

……..I’m trying to remember what person was hyping up the new system in the forums. Saying that this will be a great thing for the content and filtering out ppl because they suck. Im not hearing good things so far..

[Jessica_VS]

I know the feeling

Last season I reached platinum by the time I earned the season rank 25 reward. This time, I have been stuck in silver all the way to the rank 25 reward. I have had streaks of wins that bring me to Silver 1 followed by streaks of losses that send me back to Silver 3.

Some people have told me that it's easier to rank up consistently by playing the "overpowered" or "less composition reliant" jobs. I have played only paladin, though, in both last season and this one.

[AshaStardust]

Before anyone gets cranky, I got crystal in previous seasons. It was arduous at times, but it wasn\\'t uncommon to have solid upward progress.

For my part, I\\'m going to have to vote an emphatic "no" on splitting the ranks in two tier sets. I got to gold in two nights, and I\\'ve been deadlocked at gold 4 since. Even when I got a few wins going yesterday, I spawned into a nice 1v5 match just as a subtle f u to any chance of a streak bonus, because the game considers that an entirely fair match where I just didn\\'t play well enough instead of declaring unreasonable matches null.

The main issue I see is that you can be a fantastic player (which I\\'m not, but I am better than average and have the screencaps to demonstrate it), and by default when you hit gold you\\'re statistically more likely to be paired with players who are on the left side of the bell curve. While I don\\'t think the previous system was perfect by any means, a wider spread of skill levels meant that regardless of where you are personally, you\\'re more likely to make progress if you keep at it even IF you are being somewhat carried. The new system basically means that skilled players bottleneck at gold and are by design playing with people who are not climbing out of bronze, and as a result personal contribution means less. Not less than it means in frontline, but the implied point of a ranked system is some level of meritocracy. For me personally, my interest in CC will wane pretty significantly if devs continue in the direction of your skill and experience making it less likely for you succeed.

This couldn’t be more real. I even changed to playing Summoner as the OP meme spec, which I find quite enjoyable and I have a knack for it, in order to be more competitive. But there are no competitions in 17 to 4 kill blowouts where I manage to get 600k damage in a 2:30 fight, but the bottom 3 players on my team are all under 100k with 4+ deaths each. You just can’t carry that. This version is so much worse than last season. I got to Diamond 2 before CC just outright died on Crystal, but this season is just deflating

[MisterNublet]

I've seen myself and 10ish other people who have been stuck in gold for the past day and a half. I've been constantly given unranked or bronze 3 players on my team who go 0-7. I've seen only TWO gold/plat lobbies out of the 50 or so games I've had to endure in gold rank. CC has become a pile of burning garbage.

[Dartart]

I think everyone's peaking gold this season. Maybe SE will revert deranking as a result.

[GordonGeeko]

……..I’m trying to remember what person was hyping up the new system in the forums. Saying that this will be a great thing for the content and filtering out ppl because they suck. Im not hearing good things so far..

Probably was me, but of course the games right now are currently wild. You have a mix of Top 100 and Crystal mixed in with worthless players. It's extremely volatile.

At Gold, you are not even close to be able to hit demotion, so that new system that I praised is not even in effect.

Now, what I don't praise is the matchmaking changes, which I thought would just make it harder for the same people to play against each other to prevent wintrading, now matches people from all kinds of ranks a lot more, making games even more unbalanced than before. I'll wait until I understand how the higher ranks work, but if let's say they are still matching Crystal with Platinum players, what was even the point of demotion ? My hunch is that they kept the Diamond 3 at minimum, but I'll figure it out when I get there (I just started playing last night).

We are not even done with the first week of a season that is going to last months. More and more players are climbing in the higher ranks everyday, meaning that the lower ranks are losing more people that can carry, making it more balanced. Because the Top 100s all around are building up and, shocker, it's a lot of the same names from before. Probably the luckiest people in the world or the biggest cheating conspiracy of all time, according to y'all.

So, yeah, keep it up, stay patient, if you wait a bit it will become easier but if you wait too much, queues won't pop as much because a lot of the lower tier players get discouraged and the better players will have climbed up.

[Osmond]

Probably was me, but of course the games right now are currently wild. You have a mix of Top 100 and Crystal mixed in with worthless players. It's extremely volatile.

At Gold, you are not even close to be able to hit demotion, so that new system that I praised is not even in effect.

Now, what I don't praise is the matchmaking changes, which I thought would just make it harder for the same people to play against each other to prevent wintrading, now matches people from all kinds of ranks a lot more, making games even more unbalanced than before. I'll wait until I understand how the higher ranks work, but if let's say they are still matching Crystal with Platinum players, what was even the point of demotion ? My hunch is that they kept the Diamond 3 at minimum, but I'll figure it out when I get there (I just started playing last night).

We are not even done with the first week of a season that is going to last months. More and more players are climbing in the higher ranks everyday, meaning that the lower ranks are losing more people that can carry, making it more balanced. Because the Top 100s all around are building up and, shocker, it's a lot of the same names from before. Probably the luckiest people in the world or the biggest cheating conspiracy of all time, according to y'all.

So, yeah, keep it up, stay patient, if you wait a bit it will become easier but if you wait too much, queues won't pop as much because a lot of the lower tier players get discouraged and the better players will have climbed up.

Yeah, we got tomorrow, but so far…..not a lot of positive feedback. The 2nd week though will be the somewhat final say. That’s where ppl might reach above or reach platinum. Going to see what happens with the demotion system.

Not concerned with the filtering, it’s more on the tolerance of ppl losing and constantly being demoted due to random players.