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    Player
    Astralrisk's Avatar
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    Apr 2022
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Legendairy Products
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    Exodus
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    Yeah there used to only be teams, then they made teams and solo. Sometime later the player base dwindled, and they removed teams so as to not divide the potential pool. They were worried about doing just that with CC, but no role lock is so fantastically bad.
    You basically have it right, they use this same format for every small scale PvP mode, aka the Feast and Mahjong. I do get why they only have solos for CC, as to try and keep everyone in the same queue pool since they were afraid of the population count coming off of what PvP was once was. However, since CC overall is just popular enough to sustain it, and like you said having no role requirements means that queue times wouldn't be as bad. I don't think they'd just open the flood gates and add full group queues immediately, however I felt like having a 1-2 player queue would least accommodate the players who want some group play without dividing the player base or creating one sided matches with full premade groups.
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    Arzalis's Avatar
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 82
    Duo queues would be fine.

    I play an MMO to play with my friends.
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    Karasio's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Silver Faye
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Add in like a flex queue separate from solo queue so there's no whining shitstorm about "MUH GAME INTEGRITY!! YOU CAN'T COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY WITH YOUR TEAMMATES REEEEE!1" so those who want to play with their friends can go in as however many stacks they want while those that want to extend e-peens get their solo queue. Everyone wins.
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    Oextra's Avatar
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    Dehal Valdir
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    It works in other games, but this isn't other games. I just can't see a path to viability for a team queue system outside of tightly controlled competitive environments - bundle it in with solo, and it'll just kill solo off.
    The fact that teamwork, in a team based mode, is broken for said mode, shows there's a much bigger problem here. Imo, it's due to lack of defensive options. This is pretty much always the problem with PvP in MMOs. They either have little to no defensive options or too much. If they balanced the core gameplay via a simple rock paper scissors system, the mode would be much better. But that would require another rework, so at the least they should just look into adding more defense, specifically to CCs.
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    yaba_gabagool's Avatar
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    Yaba Gabagool
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    I have returned to give my insight on the situation and to admit, I was wrong. I'd like to change my position.

    Duo queue would be fine and people already abuse the queue mechanic to get into the same games.

    Sorry for the confusion.
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