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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And I'm not sure why you'd think graha wouldn't be involved in the story going forward. One of the major plot points on shadowbringers was him wanting to go on an adventure with you after it was all over.
    G'raha officially joined the Scions in the end of 5.3. Not sure about Estinien.

    He can be a member of more than one organisation at a time, especially when they're officially pretending that the Scions don't exist any more (even though they've just gone back to existing secretly rather than overtly).
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    That's where the animation budget in general should be going instead of continuing to be allocated to food.
    Tell us you still hate the Burger Scene, without telling us you still hate the Burger scene.
    You act like you want to be taken seriously....rofl
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  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Tell us you still hate the Burger Scene, without telling us you still hate the Burger scene.
    You act like you want to be taken seriously....rofl
    Fun fact I don't hate the burger scene. I do hate the sugar cube scene >8U because it happened during 6.1 and I was butthurt about them chopping off Hrothgar ears!!
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  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    G'raha officially joined the Scions in the end of 5.3. Not sure about Estinien.

    He can be a member of more than one organisation at a time, especially when they're officially pretending that the Scions don't exist any more (even though they've just gone back to existing secretly rather than overtly).
    I guess i forgot that tidbit. But still, Estinien was basically blackmailed by Tataru to help out, I don't think he ever "officially" joined the group.
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  5. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And I'm not sure why you'd think graha wouldn't be involved in the story going forward. One of the major plot points on shadowbringers was him wanting to go on an adventure with you after it was all over.
    Graha's story should have ended in 5.3. It was supposed to, but he got too popular and as we all know, the popular characters in this game get immense amounts of plot armor (unless they're the bad guys of course, not that I'd want the bad guys to get milked to death too) so he got to abandon his super fitting and great ending and just come along with us. Now he's devolved from the great character that was the Exarch into an annoying fanboy and is just following us around like some lost sad puppy. He doesn't have any compelling character goals or motivations either other than the mega generic 'I wanna go on an adventure!'

    Just get rid of this obnoxious character, he's had an adventure with us in 6.0, and he's overstayed his welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Tell us you still hate the Burger Scene, without telling us you still hate the Burger scene.
    You act like you want to be taken seriously....rofl
    It's less funny when SE likes to pretend that they have a super small budget and can't afford to put money into any improvements for the game. Laugh all you want at it, but if their budget is so limited as they claim, they wasted it on that burger scene.
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  6. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Graha's story should have ended in 5.3. It was supposed to, but he got too popular and as we all know, the popular characters in this game get immense amounts of plot armor (unless they're the bad guys of course, not that I'd want the bad guys to get milked to death too) so he got to abandon his super fitting and great ending and just come along with us. Now he's devolved from the great character that was the Exarch into an annoying fanboy and is just following us around like some lost sad puppy. He doesn't have any compelling character goals or motivations either other than the mega generic 'I wanna go on an adventure!'

    Just get rid of this obnoxious character, he's had an adventure with us in 6.0, and he's overstayed his welcome.
    He GOT popular? He was popular for a long time because of the CT storyline. People loved him long before 5.0 even released.

    Why does he need a reason other than wanting to go on an adventure? That can, you know, create reasons for him to be around. He can go through new growth. You guys are really just stuck on hating him for some reason. I'm not even a fan of his, but I never found him annoying.
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  7. #287
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    He GOT popular? He was popular for a long time because of the CT storyline. People loved him long before 5.0 even released.
    Ah yes, the CT. Back in the era of ARR where the developers/writers had the guts to kill off a popular character like Minfilla or Haurchefant/Ysayle in HW. At least when Yshtola came back in HW it was acceptable as it was more of an exception rather than the norm. Nowadays we have characters with plot armor thicker than my future, and if there's any chance a character might die, it's probably another fakeout like Yshtola in Raktika or the mess that was UT. Different rules from different times. I miss ARR/HW...

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Why does he need a reason other than wanting to go on an adventure?
    Because that's boring as hell. It amounts to 'I am here to do this thing because I want to.' Not very compelling or deep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That can, you know, create reasons for him to be around. He can go through new growth.
    Cool. Let's see those reasons sometime in the near future. Maybe if they give him a good reason to stick around and tone back his annoying personality, there will be a reason to like him other than "oh look at the cute catboy! uwu!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    TYou guys are really just stuck on hating him for some reason.
    I only hate him because he 1) serves no purpose (story-wise) 2) has no motivation and 3) has an obnoxious personality. The Exarch did not have these problems, thus I liked him, If they fix those problems I will like graha too. Until they do, I will dislike him.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 09-12-2022 at 08:02 AM.

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    G’raha should’ve died in Shb. That promise WoL made about going on an adventure…for me it felt like he was about to die and WoL was just giving him his dying wish that was never gonna happen but was just to make him feel better. Either way, I think he’s fucking annoying.
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    Because Redditors are such experts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Tell us you still hate the Burger Scene, without telling us you still hate the Burger scene.
    You act like you want to be taken seriously....rofl
    Funny story, really..... I FORGOT the burger scene..... It IS rather forgettable, after all.

    It's rather ironically the Fora Knights here that keep making me recall it, not Aveyond. Y'all bring it up more often than they do. ;3
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