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[RyuDragnier]

All I hear from you with every post Aveyond, is that they should basically never acknowledge the Scions existing ever again, and start from scratch. Is this correct?

[Midareyukki]

I don't think there's a huge amount to explore. From memory she said she had little awareness of being captured by the Garleans because they kept her sedated most of the time. And Eureka can't be touched on in any depth because it's optional and too impractical to make mandatory.

She can be a major player in new events without any need to explore the old ones.

The more significant things about her are that she has long-established relationships with the twins and Raha. She also has a sneaky side, as shown in Tales from the Shadows.

In fairness, her loss of those in the Isle of Val happened in ARR And sure, Eureka itself isn't mandatory content, but how did they go around the moment when Krile mentions the lost students of Baldesion for those that haven't played through Eureka?

...inb4 I'm super toxic and say "casual sidecontent should just be assumed to have happened after a few expansions, because some worldbuilding and serious character growth is locked behind those things. If people have issue with that, tough, go unlock it~"

[aveyond-dreams]

All I hear from you with every post Aveyond, is that they should basically never acknowledge the Scions existing ever again, and start from scratch. Is this correct?

The Scions should indeed take a backseat and allow for a new main cast to take the lead in Season 2. That is not to say they cannot make occasional and well-placed cameos, but to keep shoving them in our faces after having already put up with them for 10 years...is a lot to ask.

There are numerous issues with them that have led to people becoming disillusioned with them and unwilling to carry on with some of these characters. Some have their character development regress and progress in cyclical loops, others have continuously cheated death to the point where it damages the story, others with offputting behavior while some were left to remain stagnant.

Please do better to understand my perspective before claiming such things.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Seson 2 is long gone, Im looking foreword to how they are going to conclude season 10, leading up to season 11 in 7.0
So far the writers and VA have spoiled us that Kryile will take a Lead Role, excited to see how Season 11 will be.

[Boblawblah]

The Scions should indeed take a backseat and allow for a new main cast to take the lead in Season 2. That is not to say they cannot make occasional and well-placed cameos, but to keep shoving them in our faces after having already put up with them for 10 years...is a lot to ask.

There are numerous issues with them that have led to people becoming disillusioned with them and unwilling to carry on with some of these characters. Some have their character development regress and progress in cyclical loops, others have continuously cheated death to the point where it damages the story, others with offputting behavior while some were left to remain stagnant.

Please do better to understand my perspective before claiming such things.

do you have a group of 5 - 8 npcs in mind that would take more of a front role? Or are you saying that they should do a reset of sorts and slowly start to introduce a new cast starting in 7.0 and not a full 'new' cast until 8.0 or something like that?

[Iscah]

In fairness, her loss of those in the Isle of Val happened in ARR And sure, Eureka itself isn't mandatory content, but how did they go around the moment when Krile mentions the lost students of Baldesion for those that haven't played through Eureka?

The destruction of Val, with Krile as the sole known survivor, is established in the MSQ. Eureka just raises hopes of other survivors and then dashes them again.

[Midareyukki]

The destruction of Val, with Krile as the sole known survivor, is established in the MSQ. Eureka just raises hopes of other survivors and then dashes them again.

...yes, that's not what I'm referring to.

Since she's lost all her family, Eureka aside, she really wasn't given a moment to grieve, right? Or at least not on-screen, we never bonded with her about that. Eureka just had her go "Oh, that's what happened. Huh."

I mean that they could still have her display such growth and development without them adding Eureka. Bc from what I know, if people haven't played through X content and it's relevant to Y scene, they'll make an alternate dialogue to reflect that.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The Scions should indeed take a backseat and allow for a new main cast to take the lead in Season 2. That is not to say they cannot make occasional and well-placed cameos, but to keep shoving them in our faces after having already put up with them for 10 years...is a lot to ask.

There are numerous issues with them that have led to people becoming disillusioned with them and unwilling to carry on with some of these characters. Some have their character development regress and progress in cyclical loops, others have continuously cheated death to the point where it damages the story, others with offputting behavior while some were left to remain stagnant.

Please do better to understand my perspective before claiming such things.

They kind of did tho. Varshan isn't a scion. Graha is a student of baldesion, and only recently became a scion. Estinien was just helping because Tataru held something over him, but he splits off to do his own thing, which is how we ran into him in 6.1.

Yshtola is the only original scion in the current story.

And I'm not sure why you'd think graha wouldn't be involved in the story going forward. One of the major plot points on shadowbringers was him wanting to go on an adventure with you after it was all over.

Estinien is the muscle. He's probably the strongest non-wol character we tag along with. He's stoic, but more relaxed than he used to be, through that character growth you've been wanting. He learned to laugh at himself. Something 3.0 estinien could never do.

[Iscah]

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I don't think it's something that they'll particularly delve into.

If she developed more emotional maturity over the course of Eureka, then the writers are going to write her on the assumption that it happened, without overtly referencing it. She still comes out of Eureka physically and situationally the same as she was at the start, so there isn't the same need for it to be completed before the narrative moves past it.

And in general, I think asking "she's going to be a main character, so what past tragedy can we explore with her" is the wrong approach to building a cast. Some characters will have tragic and relevant backstories, others are just there because they're your childhood friend and a decent mage, or something.

[aveyond-dreams]

...yes, that's not what I'm referring to.

Since she's lost all her family, Eureka aside, she really wasn't given a moment to grieve, right? Or at least not on-screen, we never bonded with her about that. Eureka just had her go "Oh, that's what happened. Huh."

I mean that they could still have her display such growth and development without them adding Eureka. Bc from what I know, if people haven't played through X content and it's relevant to Y scene, they'll make an alternate dialogue to reflect that.

Some more showing and less merely telling would go a long way to establish some footing for players to build connections with her over the events that transpired on the Isle, indeed. The loss, the grief. Her processing of it. This is what will help us feel for her more than any jokey or memey scenes ever could.

An animated scene wherein the isle crumbles beneath her feet as it is whisked away into the lifestream, with her and Galuf just beyond each other's reach looking on at each other would help demonstrate more of what she went through. That's where the animation budget in general should be going instead of continuing to be allocated to food.