desperate times calls for desperate measures ( classes balance )

[Ransu]

Why release savage before anyone can be geared for it then ?
Why is the iLVL not 610 for all floors so only when you have mostly upgraded tome gear can you run it ?

That's how most MMO's function....Good players can clear the fights with lesser gear, but the general intent is that its supposed to be difficult for the majority of players and that you progress each week through the fights getting better gear making them easier to clear the dps check as you progress.

[Kalaam]

The issue is that even good players can't clear the fight with some jobs despite the claim that "any job can clear".
If it's supposed to be on equal footing, why should some jobs have to wait week 2 or 3 to have a chance at clearing with the same consistency as other did weeks prior ?

[Hussain]

The issue is that even good players can't clear the fight with some jobs despite the claim that "any job can clear".
If it's supposed to be on equal footing, why should some jobs have to wait week 2 or 3 to have a chance at clearing with the same consistency as other did weeks prior ?

that person is just clueless. that's why I said "moving on"

[Kalaam]

that person is just clueless. that's why I said "moving on"

You're right.

[MagiusNecros]

The issue is that even good players can't clear the fight with some jobs despite the claim that "any job can clear".
If it's supposed to be on equal footing, why should some jobs have to wait week 2 or 3 to have a chance at clearing with the same consistency as other did weeks prior ?

Because there is a meta comp and they purposely release the fights while you are undergeared for the illusion of challenge where all jobs can clear when they are properly geared for the fight. It's artificial difficulty and they have done this for years.

It's nothing new.

Doesn't make it right but that's how they do the fights. I imagine raiders feel pretty bad when they can't clear on their favorite job because the job has lower DPS then another in the same role through no fault of their own.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Jobs shouldn't be balanced around week-one clears of one fight in a new savage tier.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[fulminating]

Jobs shouldn't be balanced around week-one clears of one fight in a new savage tier.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

care to elaborate?

[Ransu]

care to elaborate?

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.

Its why you see such a shift in numbers as the tier progresses over the weeks and people start getting their BiS. Its like this in literally every stat based game. Some jobs simply scale better than others with gear.

[Hussain]

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.

Its why you see such a shift in numbers as the tier progresses over the weeks and people start getting their BiS. Its like this in literally every stat based game. Some jobs simply scale better than others with gear.

Everything you said goes against a certain comp lmao
if you jump into the final floor with specific classes you kill it EASILY , so your whole point is just wrong
but yeah keep defending this shit job balance dude , you don't look funny at all

[Shuuli]

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.
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I thought the devs were famously stating you can clear any content with any comp.

Honestly, what you say goes against this. I have lot of friends who like to do actual challenges and do everything in MINE (Minimum ilevel no echo). And you SHOULD be able to clear with minimum ilevel with ANY comp...
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The specific ilevel to clear should be the ilevel requirement set for the content... in my opinion. (Isnt that 610 for this content?)