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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Now he's just an anime trope...
    ...just like making Y'shtola's younger self a magical girl...
    It all just feels so unnecessary.
    It’s absolutely fine to weave moments of levity when done in the proper time and place. Although I didn’t laugh, Y’shtola’s scene was amusing and her breach of character from her young self's incantation made her a bit more relatable to me.

    In G’raha’s case however, as you said, he overly acts like an UwU anime trope and it doesn’t feel organic, especially when contrasted with his past ARR and ShB selves.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Simple. 5-6 people vs close to a million or more. But you know that.
    Done here.
    So petulant!

    This isn’t some official SE assembly to vote on ousting G’raha from the game. We’re simply discussing our different stances on the character.

    We can play with our own ball, thank you very much.
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Crystal Exarch > Graha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I like G’raha.

    People like lyse and she was awful. She still gets parts in the story. People like moenbryda who was pointless and got wasted scenes about her in EW because players cried about it being unfair she died. She contributed nothing at all.

    Everyone can like or dislike him if they want. I’ll always want more story with him.
    I like G'raha but you ain't calling useless Moenbryda.

    She was the only person who ended up pulling a way to trap/defeat an Ascian where no one could at the moment, her relationship with Urianger was also fun to see considering how the man acted and talked in ARR and of course a badass roe.

    Her death felt too quick imo sadly but damn they worked with that and put one of the best EW moments to make up (and in general of the whole game for me)
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    Kazek Amilia
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    If they wanted to keep G'raha around, I would have liked if Source G'raha didn't receive the Crystal Exarch memories and was kept as an entirely separate character who was struggling to live up to his alternate counterpart's legacy. I think it could have been an interesting concept and could create lots of storytelling opportunities.
    His current character is a confusing mess who mostly acts like a different person as his First counterpart and I'm not sure why he's even there beyond shallow fanservice due to his popularity.
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    Moebius Avelion
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    I agree. I really liked G'raha as the Exarch in Shadowbringers up to and with 5.3.

    After the resurrection his character seemingly devolved backwards, from all his character growth throughout Shadowbringers and final act in 5.3. Which I felt should have been the Shadowbringers version of Lousioix's sacrifice, worthy of an CGI cutscene. And with it his death, and his statue becoming and ever lasting hallmark for his watchful vigil over the First. Then they could also have played into Elidibus talk, through his statue, and somehow also communicate with part of his spirit. Not to mention like Haurchefant's grave remembrance, there would be amble times to reminisce of his tales, and that the moments of his heroism throughout Shadowbringers truly was an epic tale of adventures of his heroisms.

    But Alas, instead we got him back in the source as some lost puppy, who only had one or two moments of resembling his Exarch self in confidence and resolve, which the current G'raha Tia otherwise seems devoid of. And now He's just rotting away as a Scion side-kick, until he's needed as a plot device for some future content.
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    Post 5.3 G'raha doesn't even act that much like his 2.1-2.5 self. The team saw that people went AWWWW at the Exarch's timid behavior in the cutscene after Hades and decided to latch onto it with all limbs.
    They flanderized the shit out of G'raha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Post 5.3 G'raha doesn't even act that much like his 2.1-2.5 self. The team saw that people went AWWWW at the Exarch's timid behavior in the cutscene after Hades and decided to latch onto it with all limbs.
    They flanderized the shit out of G'raha.
    He was always very self-deprecating and saying you were great at everything, and a recurring theme of talking about events as history will record them.

    If anything, maybe the Exarch's personality has toned down his brash side, and given him a whole lot more people to fanboy over because he knows the heroics they went on to perform in the other timeline.
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    Petite Poutine
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    Like I said, I don’t dislike current G’raha too much.

    It’s not like it’s too late for the character to improve so I’ll keep an open door. He probably ''still has more secrets to tell'' and more character growth to do since we're likely heading to Meracydia in the future.

    A likely scenario I see happening is us returning to the first with him, once Y’shtola perfects World travel that is. That way he could see the crystallized Exarch for himself. That could end up being a big deal for him.
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    Last edited by Petite; 09-09-2022 at 03:33 AM.

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    Keiho Fukiku
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    While I agree on some level, he's also one of the better scions so it's nice to have them around rather than having to deal with the twins or Y'shtola.
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    I liked him as the exarch, now I just want him to go away.
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