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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Indeed. Despite having such a variety of races to draw from, the main cast is oversaturated with representation from the stereotypical anime races and elves. Enough is enough, even if I like Zero she is still just another midlander at the end of the day. Vrtra's Au Ra face model was...something. When I asked for a male Au Ra to join the party I didn't mean that. A male Hrothgar/Highlander/Roegadyn addition would also add some much needed muscle and masculinity to the party.
    Actual question piggybacking off of the last line in this:

    Is there some reason why masculine type characters (excluding Thancred and even he is kinda not necessarily what I mean) are hardly ever given a spotlight in the game? Like, do they think us as a playerbase will not be able to relate to a character built more masculine/bodybuilder type? I know we have Raubahn but like said already, he barely does anything. Also there seems to be a distinct lack of beards/facial hair amongst the main/secondary characters. Does Square just think we all want our men to look like teenagers forever or is facial hair really that hard to add to the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Actual question piggybacking off of the last line in this:

    Is there some reason why masculine type characters (excluding Thancred and even he is kinda not necessarily what I mean) are hardly ever given a spotlight in the game? Like, do they think us as a playerbase will not be able to relate to a character built more masculine/bodybuilder type? I know we have Raubahn but like said already, he barely does anything. Also there seems to be a distinct lack of beards/facial hair amongst the main/secondary characters. Does Square just think we all want our men to look like teenagers forever or is facial hair really that hard to add to the game?
    The game seems to for some reason really dug into trying to appeal to very specific demographics with it's character designs, I'm guessing it's to cater to the most aggressively vocal parts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korbei View Post
    I don't know.. the Scions are entirely made up of overly serious characters and hypercapitalist Tataru.. Some levity in the group is probably necessary. It's nice to have someone eager to jump in the fray with you. He just wants to me the Robin to your Batman. He definitely struggles with boundaries but we all deal with people like that in our lives. Alphinaud behaves very similarly with Estinien. I feel like Aymeric is exactly the same. He is a borderline creep. Magnai is another. The game is full of characters like this. It's not a G'raha Tia thing.

    It is worth remembering that G'raha's Exarch body is *ancient* and worn. The circumstances are dire. He intends to die for his cause. This had been weighing on him for a hundred years. The circumstances would definitely wear on the affable nature of his character, which existed in his younger CT quest self. To a lesser degree, but it's still there. Then suddenly you come along and you save the First and him while you're at it. He owes you everything, including his life and no one can convince him otherwise. He loves you.
    At this point I'd say nearly all the scions are jokes at this point I don't really feel I've seen many out side Thancred/Urianger or Estinien act with any real professionalism since we left the first. G'raha gets a little but then goes back to being creepy as soon after as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    At this point I'd say nearly all the scions are jokes at this point I don't really feel I've seen many out side Thancred/Urianger or Estinien act with any real professionalism since we left the first. G'raha gets a little but then goes back to being creepy as soon after as possible
    These people aren't your coworkers.. they're your friends. Not a one of them is a professional anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbei View Post
    These people aren't your coworkers.. they're your friends. Not a one of them is a professional anything.
    The Scions were a professional group, it's what made them interesting. I don't really think of most of them as friends to my player character I just don't feel affection for them and get on much better with the ones where the relationship is built on professional respect something absent from most of the cast now
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    The Scions were a professional group, it's what made them interesting. I don't really think of most of them as friends to my player character I just don't feel affection for them and get on much better with the ones where the relationship is built on professional respect something absent from most of the cast now
    No they weren't. They were essentially quasi-sanctioned vigilantes bankrolled by Alphinaud and Alisae's mom following the potentially deranged hallucinations of a young post-traumatic orphan girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    The Scions were a professional group, it's what made them interesting. I don't really think of most of them as friends to my player character I just don't feel affection for them and get on much better with the ones where the relationship is built on professional respect something absent from most of the cast now
    I understand that the game allows and encourages some level of head canon, but after a certain point you're just playing an entirely different story to the rest of us.
    Whilst you may only see them as coworkers, the game clearly positions them as your character's close friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I understand that the game allows and encourages some level of head canon, but after a certain point you're just playing an entirely different story to the rest of us.
    Whilst you may only see them as coworkers, the game clearly positions them as your character's close friends.
    I don't feel they're written that way at all, or if they are they are creepy forced friendships which make me deeply uncomfortable. Raha, Sthola and Alaise I think are the worst for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I don't feel they're written that way at all, or if they are they are creepy forced friendships which make me deeply uncomfortable. Raha, Sthola and Alaise I think are the worst for this.
    Far be it from me to deny one's interpretation of a story, but if I may be so bold, personally, I find your interpretation to be pretty f'ing weird.
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