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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Why doesn't it fit the game? Why shouldn't it?
    Because I'm the sort of person who enjoyed Thor: Dark World and hated Thor: Ragnarok. When you've established a game without blatant, cliché and forced comic relief that didn't feel natural and only made it look like an anime, moments like those are jarring.
    When you go from comedy such as "Alphinaud yeets himself into the ocean", "Little Sun", "Urianger got lost in the sea because he too cannot swim" and you replace those with "Puppy dog catboy has a fanboy moment" and "level-headed woman devolves into an over-the-top girly girl", it isn't natural.

    Y'shtola can't be boring and stoic all the time, you are 100% correct. My friends would get angry at me for pointing out how boring and stoic Y'shtola was. Since then she's come out of her shell, be more laid back, with mature humour that wasn't based on gags.

    Again: it was amusing, but unnecessary.

    Had this been a more natural occurrence, had she had better indications of this, it would have worked. Everyone else is often rather serious, and this would have worked just fine. But Y'shtola was on the extreme end. And going to these lengths on her without giving her a bit more natural cadence is an extreme measure.

    We don't need the game to have such blatant and forced moments. If it wants cutesy stuff with sparkles and bubbly animations, we have that naturally in the MSQ. Again: other characters are also serious, yet this works better for them. Y'shtola just randomly whipping that out of her ass isn't.

    G'raha is even worse. We knew this kid as energetic and hero-loving, being inspired by us and idolizing us. We see the natural progression of that after 100 years of going through actual hell and needing to guide an entire country through despair on the vague hope that one day his hero might come to him and help fix the mess. And now he's just... blushy blushy uwu fanboi. Slay, I guess?

    And this is what I don't like in my stories and why I didn't like Thor: Ragnarok. I'm fine with comedy, and as I've stated before, I don't like it when characters are nothing but a serious face spouting knowledge without you having any more meaningful interaction. But when you go from that and don't capitalize on the sheer good humour that someone serious and stern can bring without devolving them into something cliché and immature*, it's JARRING. People liked these characters for a reason, and if others didn't, that should be fine. Not everyone likes Thancred or Urianger, and we have to respect that, don't we? So why must we make Y'shtola endearing to everyone else when she's already endearing to the people she's meant to be endearing to?
    *I understand the whole point of the scene was to show Y'shtola's immature side when she WAS immature. Hence why I say G'raha is worse. The real issue is why we have that to begin with. Why are we so willing to accept that this anime-esque degradation is fine? And why is it that the only argument I've seen people say was "Why not?". That's not an answer.

    But I know what you'll say. It's the same thing to critics of Thor: Ragnarok. "You just hate comedy". No. Just that not every comedy needs to be built on gags and be blatant. It can be subtle. It can be mature. It needs to fit the character and the story you're telling.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 09-10-2022 at 03:03 AM. Reason: lol forgot a verb