[Salt thread] Owning a House Offically became Dead content for me

[Padudu]

I love threads like these lol. It only comes down two ways every time.

The "All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone who enjoys housing as it is don't want to see it changed because of sore losers. Maybe unsub if all all that's enjoyable to you is housing. You should just get an apartment and deal with it if you don't want to unsub."

vs

"All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone else who also can't get a house feels blocked and gated by content that should be accessible to everyone. Everyone who has a house and doesn't want instanced housing/more wards/whatever is an elitist snob who likes looking down on other people."

[Remolia]

I love threads like these lol. It only comes down two ways every time.

The "All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone who enjoys housing as it is don't want to see it changed because of sore losers. Maybe unsub if all all that's enjoyable to you is housing. You should just get an apartment and deal with it if you don't want to unsub."

vs

"All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone else who also can't get a house feel blocked and gated by content that should be accessible to everyone. Everyone who has a house and doesn't want instanced housing/more wards/whatever is an elitist snob who likes looking down on other people."

people complain about it coz it has serious problems, not like "- nuuh its boring! - nuuuh its good!"

[Raoabolic]

I love threads like these lol. It only comes down two ways every time.

The "All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone who enjoys housing as it is don't want to see it changed because of sore losers. Maybe unsub if all all that's enjoyable to you is housing. You should just get an apartment and deal with it if you don't want to unsub."

vs

"All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone else who also can't get a house feel blocked and gated by content that should be accessible to everyone. Everyone who has a house and doesn't want instanced housing/more wards/whatever is an elitist snob who likes looking down on other people."

You forgot the last group.
"Wait, they locked crossbreeding to housing only? They also locked FC workshops to housing only? lol, what are you doing SE?"

[Padudu]

You forgot the last group.
"Wait, they locked crossbreeding to housing only? They also locked FC workshops to housing only? lol, what are you doing SE?"

There's so much I could've put for both sides lol but then my post would rival pretty close to the declaration of independence

people complain about it coz it has serious problems, not like "- nuuh its boring! - nuuuh its good!"

Lmao you should see the first page of the thread where someone literally says "the wards DO serve a purpose, it makes me, my friends, and the other house owners happy!" whilst calling non-homeowners salty and bitter bcoz they don't have a house in a "perfectly fine" system. I didn't just pull those opinions out of nowhere lol.

[Silverbane]

I love threads like these lol. It only comes down two ways every time.

The "All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone who enjoys housing as it is don't want to see it changed because of sore losers. Maybe unsub if all all that's enjoyable to you is housing. You should just get an apartment and deal with it if you don't want to unsub."

vs

"All you guys can think about is me, me, me. I and everyone else who also can't get a house feels blocked and gated by content that should be accessible to everyone. Everyone who has a house and doesn't want instanced housing/more wards/whatever is an elitist snob who likes looking down on other people."

More generally, as with many subjects in the forum, it all comes down to

Enjoying Final Fantasy XIV for what it is.

versus

Hating Final Fantasy XIV for what it is not.

The extreme saltiness of some forum posters, obvious from their repeated hyperbole and attacks on the devs, really makes you wonder why they are playing the game at all.

[Padudu]

More generally, as with many subjects in the forum, it all comes down to

Enjoying Final Fantasy XIV for what it is.

versus

Hating Final Fantasy XIV for what it is not.

The extreme saltiness of some forum posters, obvious from their repeated hyperbole and attacks on the devs, really makes you wonder why they are playing the game at all.

Goes both ways tho, the SE defenders or whatever you'd like to call them goes into these threads, plug their ears in and go 'la-la-la' at the detractors. Each and every time there is something negative there will be people, sometimes the same ones, who will jump at the opportunity to tell the OP or whoever why they're selfish/attacking the devs/don't understand the resources they're asking SE to allocate.. ect ect ect ect. If you're going to just do that then why go to the negatively opinionated threads at all? You know for a fact you're not going to like the opinion and even if you don't know that and end up going "just another salt thread", then like.. why even bother? Same goes for the SE-haters.

Also, you can like some aspects of XIV for what it is (personally, I love the music, fashion designs, housing items, maps, story, ect for example) and still acknowledge that the game has problems. It's not really that hard to conceptualize that people still play it because the game is a solid 8/10 in a lot of aspects and then you turn into a corner and hit the 5/10 features (Savage lockouts, squadrons, gold saucer, for example..)

[Pablomaldito]

Since the inception of the Housing Lottery, i lost every time and now on my Home world Shiva there is no Housing Plot Left as of Yesterdays Drawing(as far as i looked).

Since they dont do Demolitions anymore there wont be freed up plots from inactive players occupying plots making it mpossible to be able to own a House.
FC Rooms or Apartment is not a Sufficient alternative, i had the faint hope island sanctuary maybe we can have a house to ones liking but its static Buildings.

Please add more wards.

Thank you,

I see that you are in Shiva. I would strongly urge you to move to Alpha or Raiden. Those two new servers are on your datacenter, so you will not be cut off from your old homeworld. You will be guaranteed a house - there are over 1400 personal houses still available on each of those servers, and many more FC houses. You can still keep in touch with your friends. You can still send them tells seamlessly, and you can form a cross world linkshell for group chat. Duty finder will work just as well for you as on your old server, since it will be selecting from the same pool of players. Again, I strongly urge you to consider moving to these servers. You will be making the least sacrifice for a guaranteed house.

Any new servers added beyond these will be on a new datacenter. If you wait for those, then you will be facing a more drastic move which will more significantly cut you off from your old community. You will sometimes suffer long duty finder queues due to the low population of the young data center. You may see item availability/price issues in the marketboard. Yes, you can still use datacenter visit to see your friends in Shiva, but it's not the same as just being able to talk to them directly and then visit by clicking on an aetheryte. Do not miss the amazing chance that you have right now.

[NekoMataMata]

No, I just don't waste it on snowflakes, forum trolls, or the like.

You literally jumped into a thread with people who you knew were going to be upset over a rng/luck based system and bragged about your own good luck right to their faces before telling them off because they're asking for an alternative. At the least you could've been constructive about it, but you weren't.

Care to explain how you're not a forum troll?

[dapperfaffer]

You literally jumped into a thread with people who you knew were going to be upset over a rng/luck based system and bragged about your own good luck right to their faces before telling them off because they're asking for an alternative. At the least you could've been constructive about it, but you weren't.

Care to explain how you're not a forum troll?

That doesn't make them a forum troll. It makes them unaware of their social position when talking about a topic that as you stated comes of as braggart. You could say it makes them (insert bad word here). but that doesn't make them a forum troll.

Since the inception of the Housing Lottery, i lost every time and now on my Home world Shiva there is no Housing Plot Left as of Yesterdays Drawing(as far as i looked).

Since they dont do Demolitions anymore there wont be freed up plots from inactive players occupying plots making it mpossible to be able to own a House.
FC Rooms or Apartment is not a Sufficient alternative, i had the faint hope island sanctuary maybe we can have a house to ones liking but its static Buildings.

Please add more wards.

Thank you,

I for one enjoy redesigning my apartment. I do it often. I would love to have a viable option to owning a house so that I can do more of what I want without having to be aware of what I can and can't do because of limitations of the system, or just a flat out lack of continued development for apartments, but I don't. And because of the lottery much like you OP I am also done with the housing lottery system.