How strong is the Warrior of Light?

[ICountFrom0]

Quite a few of the most dramatic moments required there to be 8 total people, copies of ourselves from other worlds.

In terms of general power, if you strip away all the protections, all the borrowed power, we're one sliver more powerful then anybody else because we rejoined with Ardbert. If we can track down other fragments of ourselves from other worlds we might gain more.

[Chekopacheko]

The WoL is very strong but not even close invencible, definitely needs backup most of the time (which is not bad), without the backup the WoL would have died a long time ago. I like to see the WoL as a person who has great knowledge of how to fight/survive, rather than "He is over 9000 power"

[RukoBoshi]

Actually very little of that matters. Hundreds or thousands of other adventurers also have the Blessing of Light. Including the Warriors of Light from the First. Most characters with the Echo are not particularly powerful by comparison.

The player character is, even before starting the game, 7 times rejoined. Your character is over halfway to being fully unsundered. This isn't true of all denizens of the Source. By the end of Shadowbringers, you are 8 times rejoined. Somewhere in the Thirteenth there may lurk a 9th.

Then add to that, the Blessing of Light, the collected crystals of light, soul stones. By modern mortal standards, the WoL is deific.

Does being more rejoined than others matter though ? Ranjit and Ardbert are 1/14 of a Ancient and he kicked our 8/14 ass.

But i agree with the rest, we have way more crystals of light than the average warrior of light, we are a fast learner capable of using most weapons and forms of magic and becoming a master at them and we use weapons and gear of better quality than what most people have access to.

[Korbei]

Quite a few of the most dramatic moments required there to be 8 total people, copies of ourselves from other worlds.

In terms of general power, if you strip away all the protections, all the borrowed power, we're one sliver more powerful then anybody else because we rejoined with Ardbert. If we can track down other fragments of ourselves from other worlds we might gain more.

This is wrong. Partially. Very few other characters residing on the Source are sundered. They're all entirely new life that has sprung up after the sundering. None of them have benefitted from the previous Rejoinings. They don't have other parts of their soul out there in the Rift. They're just 1/14th the aetheric density or whatever of the Ancients. The only exception I can currently think of is Fandaniel.

Those who were sundered and had been gaining strength via Rejoinings were mostly recruited by the Ascians and subsequently dispatched.

[Cleretic]

Does being more rejoined than others matter though ? Ranjit and Ardbert are 1/14 of a Ancient and he kicked our 8/14 ass.

The Ascians seemed to think it mattered.

We kicked their asses pretty soundly. If anything it seems like there's a negative correlation, the more fragmented-down souls seem to have an edge in at least the initial fights. (Or, more likely, it doesn't actually correlate to any meaningful level.)

This is wrong. Partially. Very few other characters residing on the Source are sundered. They're all entirely new life that has sprung up after the sundering. None of them have benefitted from the previous Rejoinings. They don't have other parts of their soul out there in the Rift. They're just 1/14th the aetheric density or whatever of the Ancients. The only exception I can currently think of is Fandaniel.

I'm not sure I'd say 'very few' so much as 'not everyone'. We don't actually have anything resembling an actual metric on how many people are sundered Ancient souls (and thus have capacity for the Echo) versus not--and we aren't even all that clear on what that 'not' group is exactly, we only barely got an explanation from Alisaie--we just know that both are some amount of the population.

My gut feel has always been that the Lifestream has a specific amount of Echo-capable Ancient souls in circulation, so there's always somewhere near the same amount of those souls in 'the system', and the rest are the non-Ancient souls. Mainly I have that theory because it accounts for the First getting a weirdly high amount of Echo-havers in 5.2 and 5.3; because the First has a much lower population, that means a higher proportion of it are those Ancient souls.

[FireMage]

This is wrong. Partially. Very few other characters residing on the Source are sundered. They're all entirely new life that has sprung up after the sundering. None of them have benefitted from the previous Rejoinings. They don't have other parts of their soul out there in the Rift. They're just 1/14th the aetheric density or whatever of the Ancients. The only exception I can currently think of is Fandaniel.

Those who were sundered and had been gaining strength via Rejoinings were mostly recruited by the Ascians and subsequently dispatched.

You're the one that is wrong. The Sundering was AFTER life started springing from Zodiark's intervention

[Jandor]

Does being more rejoined than others matter though?

Outside of specific circumstances, like containing the light from light wardens, I'd say no.

[SilverArrow20XX]

We may very well be the strongest single mortal in existence.
But we're still mortal, and need help against a lot of things.

Another metric is that in Elpis, we are considered extremely impressive for a combat familiar, and more combat capable than most Ancients.

[Korbei]

You're the one that is wrong. The Sundering was AFTER life started springing from Zodiark's intervention

Yes but life that began after the sundering is not sundered. Only souls that existed at the point of the sundering are split and can be rejoined. There is way more life in the Source and its reflections than existed at that point. That's the fuel that powers Zodiark. There needs to be a surplus in order to return all the original souls while also rejoining the world. That's the trade off. All those extra souls get offered up in sacrifice.

I'm not sure I'd say 'very few' so much as 'not everyone'.

This is true, it's an assumption but the game only gives us a few specific unambiguous examples. And as stated above, there are way more souls extant in the present than in the unsundered world. Life is being grown in excess to feed Zodiark. The Ascians intend to return every sundered soul to its original form and the cost is great.

Outside of specific circumstances, like containing the light from light wardens, I'd say no.

Emet-Selch makes a very belabored point about how the WoL is different and better because they are seven-times-rejoined. (At that point). And to me it feels very reminiscent of the movie The One. Paraphrasing, he basically says let us finish our work and you'll become like a god.

[Bhearil]

"Q. How strong is the Warrior of light as a human? A. The strength is as follows: Guts > Lv70 WoL > Zenos > Raubahn > Lv50 WoL. The lv70 WoL beating Zenos was a miracle."

So extrapolating the WoL by now should be even stronger than Guts which means a being so powerful that barely passes as a human anymore and more of a natural disaster due to how much trascended over normal people