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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    You're missing the point or not grasping what the discussion is here.

    The only choice we have is to work with what we have; dude. So, it sounds like you just embrace a square room which is great & all, but some of us actually enjoy the complexity of decorating.

    You may be okay with not wanting or needing or whatever, the ishgard pillars/ walls etc. But you don't speak for the many here, who do want these items implemented because there's no reason they shouldn't be.
    Also, this is a thread about the fact that we have items from the other housing wards, but NOT ishgard - so in simple terms, we have pillars/wall designs from every other house area EXCEPT the Empyreum aka: ishgard

    People are obviously making due with the lack of what there is, regardless of the abundance of requests for improvements that we won't likely ever see - so asking for matching walls/ pillars just for ishgard (again, it's bc lav beds/mists & goblet have those things already but NOT empyr) isn't too much to ask.
    I do get the point and I disagree to it, lack of creativity is lack of creativity.... any other ward in game also has limited partitions to their respective build format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    I do get the point and I disagree to it, lack of creativity is lack of creativity....
    I notice people with valid arguments rarely if ever resort to personal attacks on those who disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    any other ward in game also has limited partitions to their respective build format.
    This ^ makes me think you have still failed to grasp the issue. Every other ward doesn't have the same limitations that Empyreum does. That's why we're asking nicely for 2 extra pieces of furniture that every other single ward has.
    I'm really not sure if you're trolling at this point. I don't think there is a clearer way to explain why our request is reasonable besides pointing out that every other housing district has it's own pillars and partitions that may be crafted or purchased but Empyreum does not.

    If you are simply arguing semantics then sure virtual furniture isn't needed, nor is a virtual house, though I notice from other threads that you care enough about virtual houses to want to take some off other players.
    Anyway, I don't think we're going to reach an understanding on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    I do get the point and I disagree to it, lack of creativity is lack of creativity.... any other ward in game also has limited partitions to their respective build format.

    The other wards do have their limited partitions to their build format, EXCEPT Ishgard- There are Glade Partitions (Lavender beds) There are Glade Pillars (again, lavender beds) Do you know what there is not? Highland/ Alpine/ Ishgardian Partitions & Pillars. Now do you understand? Because I don't believe you when you say you do.
    You were not grasping the concept but hopefully I have helped you

    It has nothing to do with creativity, but a lack of resources- you saying it's a lack of creativity is just you being cornered & throwing an insult because you came here without a valid point.
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    Last edited by HeyMcFly; 11-06-2022 at 07:48 AM.

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    I respectfully disagree; my reasoning below.

    I would argue that creativity has its limits within the confines of the system within which they reside - it falls outside of the typical SCAMPER logic of housing design due to system constraints that are unique to Ishgard homes exclusively at this time. A pillar being in a inconvient place is a issue of creativity - how to you build around or incorporate it into the build - those are your only options. A good point to consider - in all other layouts - you can blend your construction into the existing layout due to the existence of matching partitions/pillars. The option is currently absent which results in a net loss of options - in essence it makes Ishgard homes the lesser option due to the limitations of the structure. It results in more item slots to replicate the same effect possible in all other ward layouts.

    Secondly, its no surprise that housing oversights happen - I think a good example of this would be the curved marble partition or the Glade Door partition. I believe that the high-land limitation is merely a oversight; and I think a request for it to be made equal is not unrealistic; its merely a desire in short for Ishgard designing to follow essentially the same design limitations as all other wards - something very vexing to many designers due to the sparse limitations on item budget - which I think you might agree with me is the greatest hurdle to creativity. In essence I do not think the request comes from a place of laziness or entitlement; rather merely the result of a upset of design options which also has a tendency to rob Ishgard of the alpine aesthetic due to folks having to take extensive measures to deal with Ishgard bones lacking matching components.
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