1 week savage delay and everything that plays into it

[Liam_Harper]

Im curious how underperforming jobs are taking a hit due to the heavy dps check in p8s.
MCH must be in shambles now...

MCH is the only job that simply doesn't exist on the top 50 speed ranking for P8s part 2 right now.

[Curisu]

I really like the 1 week savage delay.
It reduces stress to zero.

You have a week to play and enjoy the raid story.
A week to prepare your gear for even multiple classes to be prepared.
A chance to practice a new boss with your new static and to eventually find a new one or kick one member when you realize that they can't even beat a savage trail.
You can open Twitch to watch streams about savage progging without accidentally getting spoilerd by people who stream the MSQ.

It makes me enjoy the whole savage raiding even more.

[Kazhar]

No it's not and no it shouldn't.

You're obviously in a static, most aren't. Go ahead, try to prog in PF where by the way, most people do Savage and only a small number clear while the rest are stuck with the deadweights. Try being stuck with them for 5 weeks.

Day one or two in PF are usually better than most statics. If you're dedicated you can make tons of progress quickly.
Then the skill level decreases a lot as you progress through the week, reaching abyssal levels on Monday.

[Iyrnthota]

abyssal levels

ba-dum tiss

[Aluja89]

i mean, yeah, if not everyone is pulling their weight, you're not getting week 1 clears. that's how it should be. i disagree about requiring optimal job comp, that's a bit much, but requiring 8 players to be playing well in a standard or semi-standard (2 casters instead of 2 melees) to clear on content drop is fine.

I agree, that's how it was. At most I would be progging 10 days on a single fight but on the previous tier P3S took me 5-6 weeks. I mean it's just insane what kind of low tier players are getting into raiding, in EX I can adjust for someone's negligence but that's usually not the case in Savage.

It's just bumming me out I'm so heavily discouraged out of content I used to enjoy because of others.

Day one or two in PF are usually better than most statics. If you're dedicated you can make tons of progress quickly.
Then the skill level decreases a lot as you progress through the week, reaching abyssal levels on Monday.

Oh I felt it in P3S.

[Avoidy]

As someone who doesn't even do savage, I enjoyed the delay. Usually when a new raid tier drops, my friends who raid will jump in immediately to get their week1, and I'll basically never see them again. They're constantly in the raid zone, banging their head against PF and (sometimes) getting madder and madder as they continue to wipe due to other people being bad or w/e. Then they'll burn out on the game and start only logging in when they have to do their weekly raid stuff. And eventually they just stop playing altogether.

But this time, there was a week before all of that! So I actually got to enjoy the MSQ with those friends and go through the normal raids/EX with them before they went full-raider mode. It's way more preferred and I love this change and I hope they don't revert it back.

[TaleraRistain]

As someone who doesn't even do savage, I enjoyed the delay. Usually when a new raid tier drops, my friends who raid will jump in immediately to get their week1, and I'll basically never see them again. They're constantly in the raid zone, banging their head against PF and (sometimes) getting madder and madder as they continue to wipe due to other people being bad or w/e. Then they'll burn out on the game and start only logging in when they have to do their weekly raid stuff. And eventually they just stop playing altogether.

But this time, there was a week before all of that! So I actually got to enjoy the MSQ with those friends and go through the normal raids/EX with them before they went full-raider mode. It's way more preferred and I love this change and I hope they don't revert it back.

This! I have people in my friend circle who hit it really hard and especially with how interesting the Panda storyline is, it's been great to be able get excited about the story together.

So long as the change isn't going to be a detriment or decrease the fun of the challenge, I also hope they retain this delay.

[INymphI]

As someone who doesn't even do savage, I enjoyed the delay. Usually when a new raid tier drops, my friends who raid will jump in immediately to get their week1, and I'll basically never see them again. They're constantly in the raid zone, banging their head against PF and (sometimes) getting madder and madder as they continue to wipe due to other people being bad or w/e. Then they'll burn out on the game and start only logging in when they have to do their weekly raid stuff. And eventually they just stop playing altogether.

But this time, there was a week before all of that! So I actually got to enjoy the MSQ with those friends and go through the normal raids/EX with them before they went full-raider mode. It's way more preferred and I love this change and I hope they don't revert it back.

sounds great! and I agree: I definitely had more time for others clearing trial, unreal, etc together than just spending 100% of my time with my static in raid.

[CidHeiral]

I thought the delay was just swell.

[Somnolence]

As I understand the problem is not week 1 delay or dps check but bad job balance.

Difference between PLD and GNB or other casters and BLM is what, 5%+? That is obviously big enough to have difference in passing the check.