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    Awarewolf's Avatar
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    Cody Asher
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 45

    Number of Abilities per Job, if this helps anyone.

    I have a overly orderly way of binding all my keys, no mouse clicks for anything. The perfect amount of abilities for me is 30, and that's how I'm choosing which jobs to focus on.

    Here are the numbers by my calculation. It includes all abilities to level 90 and all role abilities. Edit: Limit Break not included.
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    • Paladin 33
    • Warrior 30
    • Dark Knight 32
    • Gunbreaker 31
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    • Monk 28
    • Dragoon 29 (edited from 27; forgot Arm's Length and Mirage Dive has returned in the last patch)
    • Reaper 30
    • Samurai 31
    • Ninja 31
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    • Bard 29 (edited from 30; had an instrument in that hotkey!)
    • Machinist 26
    • Dancer 29
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    • White Mage 30
    • Scholar 34 (includes both fairy summons, does not include fairy placement)
    • Sage 30
    • Astrologian 33
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    • Black Mage 30
    • Summoner 24
    • Red Mage 29
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    Last edited by Awarewolf; 09-07-2022 at 12:04 PM. Reason: Dark Knight, not Death Knight; also some formatting.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Interesting stats! I didnt expect dragoon to be the melee with the least amount of buttons.
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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Interesting stats! I didnt expect dragoon to be the melee with the least amount of buttons.
    Same here. With RPR being such a snoozefest for me I was surprised to see the ability count be higher.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    SCH having the most abilities does not come as any surprise to me, how one class can be both so bloated with abilities it doesn’t need and also be so damn simple except in very high end optimisations (GCD organisation for chain and bio refresh, dissipation timing, energy drain timings etc) is an amazing testimony to how crap healers are right now

    Ability number as a max number of skills combined with the somehow combo of non creative job design and skill bloat is seriously becoming a problem for any class that has any sort of secondary function beyond purely “I bring my own DPS”
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    Astrologian Lv 45
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    SCH having the most abilities does not come as any surprise to me, how one class can be both so bloated with abilities it doesn’t need and also be so damn simple except in very high end optimisations (GCD organisation for chain and bio refresh, dissipation timing, energy drain timings etc) is an amazing testimony to how crap healers are right now

    Ability number as a max number of skills combined with the somehow combo of non creative job design and skill bloat is seriously becoming a problem for any class that has any sort of secondary function beyond purely “I bring my own DPS”
    It boggles my mind how messed up Scholar is. More abilities to keep track of, especially with Fairy placement, and yet it manages to be the most boring of the healers. Especially that sad DPS rotation. If they added back all the DPS skills I actually want, the button bloat would be insane.

    I don't even know what I'd do to fix it, so I just avoid Scholar. And ironically, Summoner has the least amount of keys -- a boring amount. The Arcanists suffer from either too many or too little abilities, making both jobs crap to play for me. Very disappointing.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    SCH having the most abilities does not come as any surprise to me, how one class can be both so bloated with abilities it doesn’t need
    Although it's true that all of scholar's heals are rarely needed there have been dungeons with big pulls where I have had to use absolutely everything and it ended up as a rotation of every heal or shield ability it has.
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Although it's true that all of scholar's heals are rarely needed there have been dungeons with big pulls where I have had to use absolutely everything and it ended up as a rotation of every heal or shield ability it has.
    This. SCH has been my favorite healer for a couple expansions now. I enjoy the variety of healing spells, and the lack of an instant super-heal like Benediction makes it a bit more challenging for me (in a good way) in dungeon runs. DPS aspect is simple, but...it's a healer. When I want a variety of DPS abilities, I play a DPS role. I play healer to heal.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Although it's true that all of scholar's heals are rarely needed there have been dungeons with big pulls where I have had to use absolutely everything and it ended up as a rotation of every heal or shield ability it has.
    I feel like that only happens when the tank is sitting on their cooldown, DPSes being subpar, synced down to lower levels, and/or combination of those situations. And no, it doesn’t requires people to be playing at very good level either. Otherwise there are plenty that just went untouched. That’s just how bonker their number of tools are.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 09-06-2022 at 10:55 AM.

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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I don't like using "alt +" or "ctrl +" combinations, so my comfortable range is summoner lol, which explains why I love it so much. I should set up my side button on my mouse to act as a "mouse3 +" set up, that would increase my range a lot.
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    Tulzscha Abbith
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I don't like using "alt +" or "ctrl +" combinations, so my comfortable range is summoner lol, which explains why I love it so much. I should set up my side button on my mouse to act as a "mouse3 +" set up, that would increase my range a lot.
    I have 2 side mouse buttons set to shift and ctrl, it makes things so much easier.
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