Foreign Invasion

[RyuDragnier]

since golbez is seen as the pinnacle of the void i wonder whatll happen after we beat him.

We'll turn into ExDeath and begin obsessing over the Void.

[Enkidoh]

since golbez is seen as the pinnacle of the void i wonder whatll happen after we beat him.

Nothing much I presume, at least, from a political perspective - Zero explained that after the Flood of Darkness sentinent Voidsent formed their own political affiliations and groupings much like how they were as mortals, and we've seen this with Troia (clearly all the Voidsent there were Beatrice's retainers and subjects from before the Flood of Darkness, Beatrice herself being Troia's ruler before the Flood), and why Zero's Domain exists as a sanctuary for voidsent - those unaffiliated with any other group or those that simply do not wish to fight and kill anymore and just want to be left alone.

And then of course there was the Cloud of Darkness and her group, until we disposed of her, which seems to explain why Golbez and the Archfiends have now risen up, they seem to have filled in the power vacuum in the wake of the Cloud of Darkness's defeat, and seems to be wanting to hammer all other Voidsent under his banner under a "Join me or die" ultimatum. Of course, he hasn't accomplished that yet, but his defeat would probably not cause that great an issue among Voidsent, but things will continue politically as they always have - canis canis edit is the rule of survival in the Void, and Golbez's defeat would simply usher in smaller voidsent groups fighting one another, in keeping with the Void's chaotic nature.

[Hurlstone]

It seems clear that there are a large number of Voidsent who would/have, given the opportunity, launched an attack against the Source.

That said we are not invading the Void, nor are we bringing in armies nor colonising any of their land. Think of us as a small but powerful away team. It should also be noted that so far we did not instigate any of the fights, we defended ourselves and only killed when needed (Plus before we partnered with Zero we where not really killing them, given how death has no real meaning in the Thirteenth) The only reason we fought against the arcfiends was because they either attacked us, or hunted us out in particular. Plus the Dragons may not be from our Star, but that does not mean they should not be able to call it home or that we should leave one imprisoned and in pain. These dragons where actually born on Etheirys after all, and home is where the heart is… or eye, given how easy it is for them to just pluck one out and put it elsewhere.

As for what will happen if we do topple Golbez, I think a new faction will just take over, assuming that is that the Void is not changed in any meaningful way. Power and hierarchy seems to be their way, and whilst I expect a bloody battle to see who is the strongest, a new group would take Golbez’s place.

[Necrotica]

I am looking forward to the Cloud's return. She was not crystallized and has had plenty of time to gather her strength again.

Unless of course they just ignored that plot point.

Would be such an incredible waste though.

[RyuDragnier]

I am looking forward to the Cloud's return. She was not crystallized and has had plenty of time to gather her strength again.

Unless of course they just ignored that plot point.

Would be such an incredible waste though.

I don't think they ignored it. Zero mentions, and I quote:

The more you devour, the more powerful you grow. But in the process, your essence is blended with those of your prey.

If you were to lose your flesh, the souls you had come to harbor may break free and coalesce into distinct voidsent once more.

And before you yourself return, your own soul might be devoured by your enemies or your erstwhile prey. A fate more likely for stronger beings, who require more time to regenerate.
However, even assuming you survive the process, it's highly uncommon to return as you were.

[Cleretic]

Sufficiently powerful Voidsent can't cross natural dimensional fissures and they are by nature chaotic creatures, so Voidsent have never launched a full-scale attack on the Source. (May or may not change depending on Golbez' plans.)

Voidsent adhere to the rule of power; if we're able to take what we want, we're wholly justified in so doing by their standards. I don't think they much care.

Keep in mind, however, that most voidsent worth their salt are manipulative as all hell. Just because they can't open the door themselves, doesn't mean they can't get someone else to do it for them under false pretenses. Which is what Diabolos did, and is basically the core skillset of succubi.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I am looking forward to the Cloud's return. She was not crystallized and has had plenty of time to gather her strength again.

Unless of course they just ignored that plot point.

Would be such an incredible waste though.

Considering we see the Cloud regenerate in the cutscene immediately after her defeat in the World of Darkness raid, we know she can pull herself back together quickly. On the other hand, if portals to the Void match up in geographical distances on the Source, then the Cloud of Darkness's domain may be a fair distance away from Troia. She could be out there somewhere and we just have no reason to go there. We were only supposed to be looking for Azdaja, encountering Scarmiglione and pissing off Golbez was entirely coincidental.

[myahele]

Keep in mind, however, that most voidsent worth their salt are manipulative as all hell. Just because they can't open the door themselves, doesn't mean they can't get someone else to do it for them under false pretenses. Which is what Diabolos did, and is basically the core skillset of succubi.

It makes me wonder if that Voidsent we're helping make whole again has ulterior motives, but I'm guessing it's being truthful.

[Necrotica]

Considering we see the Cloud regenerate in the cutscene immediately after her defeat in the World of Darkness raid, we know she can pull herself back together quickly. On the other hand, if portals to the Void match up in geographical distances on the Source, then the Cloud of Darkness's domain may be a fair distance away from Troia. She could be out there somewhere and we just have no reason to go there. We were only supposed to be looking for Azdaja, encountering Scarmiglione and pissing off Golbez was entirely coincidental.

Since we are already making deals with Zero and other Voidsent, we could in theory cut a deal with the Cloud to work against Golbez. Assuming she isn't holding a grudge.

[RyuDragnier]

Since we are already making deals with Zero and other Voidsent, we could in theory cut a deal with the Cloud to work against Golbez. Assuming she isn't holding a grudge.

And assuming Golbez didn't eat her soul for his power (which WOULD explain why he's so powerful).