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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Sufficiently powerful Voidsent can't cross natural dimensional fissures and they are by nature chaotic creatures, so Voidsent have never launched a full-scale attack on the Source. (May or may not change depending on Golbez' plans.)

    Voidsent adhere to the rule of power; if we're able to take what we want, we're wholly justified in so doing by their standards. I don't think they much care.
    Keep in mind, however, that most voidsent worth their salt are manipulative as all hell. Just because they can't open the door themselves, doesn't mean they can't get someone else to do it for them under false pretenses. Which is what Diabolos did, and is basically the core skillset of succubi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Keep in mind, however, that most voidsent worth their salt are manipulative as all hell. Just because they can't open the door themselves, doesn't mean they can't get someone else to do it for them under false pretenses. Which is what Diabolos did, and is basically the core skillset of succubi.
    It makes me wonder if that Voidsent we're helping make whole again has ulterior motives, but I'm guessing it's being truthful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    It makes me wonder if that Voidsent we're helping make whole again has ulterior motives, but I'm guessing it's being truthful.
    Honestly, the game rarely if ever has someone outright lying to us without significant signposting that they're being dishonest about it, because 'characters telling us stuff' is their main way of laying down new information. The Hecteye's most likely being truthful about his motives because, if he wasn't, then that would call everything he told us into question, which would then render all of his info about Scarmiglione and Barbariccia basically meaningless. And since his main purpose is to tell us that info, well, that character's suddenly mostly meaningless, isn't he?

    I don't think they necessarily do this well every time, because sometimes the character they have give us the infodumps is confirmed by the game to be a massive liar in other contexts; how could we trust Emet-Selch to be telling the truth about Zodiark, Hydaelyn and Amaurot in Shadowbringers when his entire presence in the game world outside of talking to us was 'assuming a false identity and lying to an entire nation for his own ends'? But ultimately, that's just how it is. If someone tells us something and the game isn't suggesting they're lying about exactly that in the very same scene, the thing we're being told is probably legit, because it would usually be quite boring to seek out corroborating sources.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 09-05-2022 at 03:52 PM.