This is rather frustrating...

[DeeBeeP]

Whatever makes a game for one person is their choice. A blend of everything is good but for me there are some requirements in a game that I will not do without and some I will sacrifice. I'm a graphics freak and I will refuse to play a game over bad graphics because it makes the game for me the most in the way of immersion since I'm a visual person. Still, I understand how others like gameplay more than graphics and can tolerate less of the graphical quality as long as there is good gameplay.

I think it is in any business model's best interest to accommodate as much of a variety as they can and not just have one or the other. Bravo to SE for listening to their customer's feedback.

The last MMO that was considered a graphic powerhouse was Age of Conan, turned out that was all they had past level 20. The game was DOA and the only reason its still around is because it went F2P, even now only a handful play it. I'd rather not FFXIV suffer the same fate. While you may put visuals on a pedestal you are a minority. Every MMO that has failed in the last few years has been because their gameplay does not keep subscribers, SWTOR is hurting because they have no endgame content. Aion touted its Unreal Engine 3, its F2P. Rift had a shiny engine, they were doing server merges only months after release. Whether you like it or not the truth is that most people could care less about graphics if the game isn't even fun to play.

[TheVedis]

The last MMO that was considered a graphic powerhouse was Age of Conan, turned out that was all they had past level 20. The game was DOA and the only reason its still around is because it went F2P, even now only a handful play it. I'd rather not FFXIV suffer the same fate. While you may put visuals on a pedestal you are a minority. Every MMO that has failed in the last few years has been because their gameplay does not keep subscribers, SWTOR is hurting because they have no endgame content. Aion touted its Unreal Engine 3, its F2P. Rift had a shiny engine, they were doing server merges only months after release. Whether you like it or not the truth is that most people could care less about graphics if the game isn't even fun to play.

every time i say this people get all mad

gameplay is EVERYTHING, looking pretty is secondary to that

[DeeBeeP]

every time i say this people get all mad

gameplay is EVERYTHING, looking pretty is secondary to that

Ironically 10 million people still play WoW which uses an almost decade-old engine, must be the amazing graphics. People still pay a subscription for EQ and Ultima Online, certainly not for the cutting-edge visuals. According to some people's logic that graphics make the game, if FFXIV's current engine is so impressive, why did this happen;

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fi...asy-xiv-online

Why was FFXIV one of the most critically-panned MMOs ever, why was it bombed by users on metacritic? It certainly wasn't because of its graphics.

A few quotes:

"Fantastic graphics, but it seems this is all they spent time on during creation of this game."

"Yes, graphics are nice, but the UI is just horrid. Everything feels clunky and slow. Developers certainly didn't have user-friendliness in mind when they planned FFXIV."

"The fanboys are saying that the graphics are cutting edge, and the game is challenging, that it doesn't hold your hand. Aion's graphics are superior, and the game is impossible and it won't hold anyone's interest . . . for long."

"Horribly designed, sluggish, with nothing to keep you involved or enmeshed in the game's pretty graphics."

"poor UI, poor gameplay, pretty graphic. To be honest, I have to admit I am not a fan of FF14. "

"It's as if this game wasn't even made by SE. Only good thing about the game are graphics."

"The one thing that is great is Graphics but that doesnt make a good game."

"The Graphics are quite spectacular compared to the 6 year old WoW but that was about it. "

"Pretty graphics do not a solid game make. 0/10 for SE."

I can keep copy/pasting but that is a hand full of over a hundred reviews just from metacritic. I'm pretty confident they know where they messed up on 1.0 and don't plan on repeating the same mistakes.

[Ingolf]

The last MMO that was considered a graphic powerhouse was Age of Conan, turned out that was all they had past level 20. The game was DOA and the only reason its still around is because it went F2P, even now only a handful play it. I'd rather not FFXIV suffer the same fate. While you may put visuals on a pedestal you are a minority. Every MMO that has failed in the last few years has been because their gameplay does not keep subscribers, SWTOR is hurting because they have no endgame content. Aion touted its Unreal Engine 3, its F2P. Rift had a shiny engine, they were doing server merges only months after release. Whether you like it or not the truth is that most people could care less about graphics if the game isn't even fun to play.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

[DeeBeeP]

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

How does it not?