This is rather frustrating...

[Matsume]

A quick view of one's post history can reveal that they do this sort of thing all the time to get a rise out of people, or that they are chronic complainers. Like I said before, I swear some people just pay for the game to hang out on the forums all day stirring up discord.

Can't tell if you're referring to my post history or the complainer's...

[CrystalWeapon]

Can't tell if you're referring to my post history or the complainer's...

Wasn't directed at you. Sorry if it seemed that way. Just pointing out that if you follow the forums, you shouldn't expect anything different than what we see from certain posters.

[Toxsik]

IDK what people are talking about the graphics look better to me... they have a more realistic look and there's way more foliage and trees/cactus etc. Haters gonna H8 i guess.

[Dzian]

We're finally given the new screens for 2.0 that we've been asking for...and one of the main things I've been reading is how the graphics have downgraded. Seriously!? Ever since FFXIV originally launched, I've heard a lot of "Graphics don't make a game" (which is my personal belief) But now that, in order to improve the gameplay, the graphics needed to take a MICROSCOPIC hit (I mean TEENY! I didn't even notice anything personally) SOME people are going completely ape!

I mean...we're really complaining about losing a few pixels (that to me, aren't even noticeable)?!

I mean, the game is still gorgeous! How is This:

not gorgeous!?

I think we should stop nitpicking over the graphics and be a little more supportive of all of the improvements that are coming. I'm not saying everyone is unhappy...but...do you guys just like to hate on this game or what!? It reminds me of the constant stupid debate between PS3 graphics vs XBox360 graphics (They look the same to me!)....

I dunno...maybe I'm just a blind fangirl.

Everything I've read states the graphics will be the same / better.
However the required / recommended specs will be downgraded. (due to the better engine)

Basically you'll be able to run the game faster and smoother with higher settings using the same pc you have now.

At present I run everything at Max with AO, (except for shadow detail, and texture filtering both on high not highest.) my frame rate in busy areas drops to like 40. with the new engine i could probably put those 2 highs to highest and get a higher framerate aswell.

or so i understand it

[bobbygunz]

Everything I've read states the graphics will be the same / better.
However the required / recommended specs will be downgraded. (due to the better engine)

Basically you'll be able to run the game faster and smoother with higher settings using the same pc you have now.

At present I run everything at Max with AO, (except for shadow detail, and texture filtering both on high not highest.) my frame rate in busy areas drops to like 40. with the new engine i could probably put those 2 highs to highest and get a higher framerate aswell.

or so i understand it

That's what we normal people expected. But apparently "optimising" to everyone else on these forums meant "downgrading graphics so that people on low spec computers can play".

[DeeBeeP]

That's what we normal people expected. But apparently "optimising" to everyone else on these forums meant "downgrading graphics so that people on low spec computers can play".

Who is we? The rest of us don't flip tables and jump to conclusions over an early screenshot when we haven't even seen what 2.0 is like on maximum settings.

[bobbygunz]

Who is we? The rest of us don't flip tables and jump to conclusions over an early screenshot when we haven't even seen what 2.0 is like on maximum settings.

It's kind of hard to follow what your point is. So you agree graphics need improvement? And you expect they will be improved later?

Well I agree with you. Question is, will they be improved enough to avoid being considered a downgrade.

Anyways, forums are for feedback at the end of the day.

[DeeBeeP]

It's kind of hard to follow what your point is. So you agree graphics need improvement? And you expect they will be improved later?

Well I agree with you. Question is, will they be improved enough to avoid being considered a downgrade.

Anyways, forums are for feedback at the end of the day.

What? How do you get that nonsense out of a single sentence? What you call a "downgrade" is completely subjective and your opinion that is not shared by everyone so stop acting like it is. In my opinion the screenshots are fine, I don't need mapped textures, high dynamic range, and ray tracing when I don't even want to play the game because it uses decade old mechanics.

Whether they are "improved later" is completely beside the point because frankly YOU have no idea if the screenshots that were just released are even an accurate depiction of what 2.0 will look like. 2.0 could turn out to be heads over heels better looking or they could decide to use 8-bit textures, the point is you have no idea. I'm honestly hoping they decide to go the 8-bit route so that elitists such as yourself can find another mmo with over hyped visuals and mind-numbing gameplay.

In summary, you care about graphics, good for you. I and others just want an enjoyable Final Fantasy mmo first and foremost. I do not share your opinion so stop making up logical fallacies that your opinion IS everyone's opinion, because its not.

[Fear]

The graphics really don't need to be improved any further they look good, great even. With a DX11 version coming sometime after 2.0 we may get slightly better textures who knows.

[UmJammerSully]

Ingolf and Bobbygunz are still at it days later!?

Can you please just accept that "2.0 graphics are terrible" and don't meet your standards then go away forever please?