An incentive to do normal trials

[Deveryn]

Define puggable. At least on Crystal I've yet to run through a PF listing for something end game that didn't eventually lead to you hopping into a discord and tolerating other people for a set amount of time in voice which can be really exhausting, especially if you join before the party is even full. Keep in mind that is my limited experience but myself and other players aren't all social butterflies and it's a bit of a shame that we have to get so up close and personal with others instead of simply learning a generic routine for fights that are rather generic and scripted.

I've never had to hop on discord for any of these Extremes, though I did join one for running blue raids. That's a whole different thing.

All fights can generally be done without a single callout. PF tends to cover basic strat derived from videos like MTQcapture You determine a few parameters at the start: clock spots, light parties, tanks position.

Try out Primal for a practice group.

[SturmChurro]

I've never had to hop on discord for any of these Extremes, though I did join one for running blue raids. That's a whole different thing.

All fights can generally be done without a single callout. PF tends to cover basic strat derived from videos like MTQcapture You determine a few parameters at the start: clock spots, light parties, tanks position.

Try out Primal for a practice group.

Extremes for sure never had to join from my experience. It may have been suggested once or twice in the past by players, but I think it was more as a social thing. When I tried doing savage it was encouraged every now and then though to join Discord. I think I still got clears w/o joining, either way it wasn't mandatory.

[Gemina]

I wouldn't worry about ilv cheese for Trials roulettes. The roulette is used more for tomes than it is XP, and there isn't a whole lot of benefit from cheesing the ilv. The roulette can very well throw players into Chrysalis, which can and does wipe groups after the 7-8 minutes it takes to get to the point players wipe.

I agree with the poster who said to consider giving the EX trials a try. Some can be considerably more punishing than their NM counterparts, but I wouldn't let that deter you. The clears are also considerably more rewarding as a result of that. They are designed in a way to be not as demanding as Savage and Ultimate, but still not allow clears if too many mistakes are made. My experience with practice parties in the PF is they are very forgiving, and people are there to learn the fight. If they happen to clear it: bonus.

As for incentives, I am not sure what could be tossed in there. The EX versions already have everything: Orchestrion page, crafting mat for barding/furnishing, totem, and chance at mount. Plus it isn't really all that difficult to get into any particular trial at any given time by queuing into a specific trial that you like to run. Any kind of glamour/minion/random item would be a 'done once won' for most players much like the TT card is now.

I wouldn't say no for something that could be turned in for GC seals, but that is actually a nice little bonus for getting thrown into a lv50 trial.

[Raikai]

I like Storm's Crown and try to farm her card for now, but after that, I don't have an incentive to do the trial in normal mode anymore.



I know about trial roulette, yes, but just like Alliance roulette, it can be manipulated by lazy people to just run the simple lv50 trials, so chance you have the trial you like is very slim.



I know about Extreme mode, but the thing is that I don't do Extreme/Savage/Ultimate. To me, the difficulty in the normal mode is just about right for non-raiding players like me.


I run Fell Court of Troia in a daily basis without roulette cuz I want the gear/glam and like the aesthetic/music, as well as it gives nice income of weekly-cap tome. In comparison, The trial itself, like every non-ARR trial, takes as long as one of a new Panda: Abyssos raid to finish, but has worse tome income and drop nothing save for a chance for a card. And the card itself can be grinded with Extreme mode, so people don't really have any incentive to grind the normal trial if they don't mind the harder difficulty.



I remember that the ARR trial drops weapons/weapon coffers in normal mode, which I think a very nice addition. Even if I don't like the glam, I can just turn them into Grand Company seal for other goodies.


I like that even a non-raider can still benefit from the new 8-man raid tier with non-dyeable gear. I wish to see a similar treatment to trials for this game, which are rich in mechanic and diverse in execution even in normal mode, so that casual players like me can feel eager grinding them, enjoy the aesthetic, music, instead of just going through them once and done.

I defnitely agree about the weapon part... Like, I feel that the Trial weapons are kinda boring to be the actual EX farm reward.

Or at least, it would be cool to have a Daily Expert Trial roulette (for tome rewards), consisting on the Endwalker Trials. This would also benefit players getting into level 90 later into the expansion, because the Trial queues wouldn't be as terrible.

[Equitable_Remedy]

An incentive to do normal trials

I know that this is anathema on this forum, but I'm just going to say it: I run trial roulettes for fun.

Sometimes, I get home after work and just want half an hour or so of chill gaming, and I'll run trial and normal raid roulettes. They're quick, there's lot of variety, and you get to fight a couple bosses.

Fun.

[MagiusNecros]

If there was more incentive then mounts or weapons sure like say Allied Seals or Gil. I'd take 10k gil over tomestones any day.

[Deveryn]

If there was more incentive then mounts or weapons sure like say Allied Seals or Gil. I'd take 10k gil over tomestones any day.

You might be onto something. We already have BLU to provide a glut of Allied Seals. Instead, make it Centurio Seals.

[TheSuperior]

You might be onto something. We already have BLU to provide a glut of Allied Seals. Instead, make it Centurio Seals.

Considering how fast A ranks get sniped in ARR zones, yes.

[ThaCa]

They could always give normals a weekly weapon token that you need 5 or more of to trade in for the EX weapon. It would slowly allow more casual players to aquire minor upgrade and glam.

[DrWho2010]

normal trials does not need anything added to it.