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    RylaBee's Avatar
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    Ryla Bee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Ok so what's the margin? What's the difference in damage % between the casters?
    Its not compared to casters, its compared to all other jobs. I'm sure you can look it up.
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    Sanada Shishio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Ok so what's the margin? What's the difference in damage % between the casters?
    For now, BLM is doing 8% more dps and SMN is doing about 2-3% more for the current savage tiers.
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    Kaede Kaata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Ok so what's the margin? What's the difference in damage % between the casters?
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Quote Originally Posted by momokami View Post
    Stat for all battle at 90%-Max.
    redmage and smn are pretty closes.

    some fights are disadvantageous to red mages, but on some fights it has a little more DPS than SMN, but the overall balance is relatively bad,
    but nothing can be worse than the machinist.

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    Last edited by remiff; 09-14-2022 at 02:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    Stat for all battle at 90%-Max.
    redmage and smn are pretty closes.

    some fights are disadvantageous to red mages, but on some fights it has a little more DPS than SMN, but the overall balance is relatively bad,
    but nothing can be worse than the machinist.

    Don't use max. For one, "Max" refers to a singular data point--the literal max, rather than an aggregate data point. For two, that literal max is often an outlying data point itself--hence why in the box-and-whisker plot representation it's a dot on the far side of the graph.

    Even just using 99th is a better comparison mark if you're against box-and-whisker.

    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...gregate=amount

    The rankings aren't entirely different but it is worth presenting as full a picture as possible.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    Stat for all battle at 90%-Max.
    redmage and smn are pretty closes.

    some fights are disadvantageous to red mages, but on some fights it has a little more DPS than SMN, but the overall balance is relatively bad,
    but nothing can be worse than the machinist.

    Both RDM and SMN need damage buffs, it’s irrelevant how close to each other they are

    The issue is dps in relation to dps on a whole, not just within respective role
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Both RDM and SMN need damage buffs, it’s irrelevant how close to each other they are

    The issue is dps in relation to dps on a whole, not just within respective role
    I have never said the opposite once, I know that the position of some DPS jobs must be increase a little bit compared to where they are currently.
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashy View Post
    How does removing gameplay from jobs sate the parsers? If anything. It does the opposite, dumbing down samurai in 6.1 to a somehow more dumbed down state than it was in 6.0turned me off from wanting to parse the job I love because it was no longer satisfying to play
    People crying about crit variance is part of the reason Kaiten was removed, when that's literally just how crits work. Now you hit for less but every midare is a crit and the synergy is scuffed
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I so hope Yoshida follows through and caster rez gets nuked in 7.0. Then we can finally have decent caster balance.

    But also like, huffing doomium over EX parses when caster crafted gear is absolutely garbage and full of Spell Speed is a meme.
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    Last edited by Azuri; 09-01-2022 at 08:27 PM.

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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    I so hope Yoshida follows through and caster rez gets nuked in 7.0. Then we can finally have decent caster balance.
    If they take that its the day im deleting my account lol

    The constant changing things for balance sake must finally end or we only need 8 jobs which all play the same...
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