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    Warrior of Darkness (HW)

    I'm watching a letsplay that's working through the back half of HeavensWard, and it reminded me.

    The Warrior of Darkness, and his companions, a rogadin, a lalafel, and an elizen.

    The flashback shows them intending to drive the Ascians from thier world....

    of course they failed, or they wouldn't be on the source, doing what they did.


    ...

    Did we ever find out WHAT world they were from?
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    Um, play through Shadowbringers's main scenario... that will answer your question (but the short of it,
    they're from the First, the setting of ShB.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Seeing as you have a level 90 character... did you already finish the MSQ or did you skip it? If not, which point are you at? Because it is explained rather thoroughly.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Just keep watching or playing. You will find out
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Seeing as you have a level 90 character... did you already finish the MSQ or did you skip it? If not, which point are you at? Because it is explained rather thoroughly.
    Multiple level 90 jobs for the character
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Um, play through Shadowbringers's main scenario... that will answer your question (but the short of it,
    they're from the First, the setting of ShB.
    You think the ones we met, and defeated in heavensward are the same ones as from the first?

    There's some superficial resemblance, but I'm not entirely sure that holds up.
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    Encyclopedia eorzea page 214



    View image and make it bigger and read the first four words under where it says On The Warriors of Darkness
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    Last edited by Rannie; 09-01-2022 at 06:38 PM. Reason: Sorry wrong word count
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    You think the ones we met, and defeated in heavensward are the same ones as from the first?

    There's some superficial resemblance, but I'm not entirely sure that holds up.
    ardbert literally talks about being tricked by the ascians into trying to kill us and we see him returning to the first with minfillia to stop the flood of light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidurgu-12 View Post
    ardbert literally talks about being tricked by the ascians into trying to kill us and we see him returning to the first with minfillia to stop the flood of light.
    This too we see the minfillia bit when we are traveling to the first he says a lot of the other parts when we first get to the inn room...
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    You think the ones we met, and defeated in heavensward are the same ones as from the first?

    There's some superficial resemblance, but I'm not entirely sure that holds up.
    Rannie posted from the lore book, but they're the exact same ones. During one of the first scenes in 3.4
    Arbert straight up says they're from the First in the quest Shadows of the First, after defeating Garuda in Xelphatol:

    "Warrior of Darkness
    Should I explain it to you? Very well. Consider it a reward of sorts for beating us here.

    You know the tale of Hydaelyn and Zodiark, I take it. Of the great sundering, and the reflections it created?

    Alphinaud
    Across ten and three they were divided. Reflections of the Source, each possessed of shards of Light and Dark...

    Warrior of Darkness
    Just so. One of those reflections─the one nearest to the Source─is our home. And we were the heroes blessed with Her Light.

    But not all worlds hold Light and Dark in equal measure. In ours, the power of Light was greater by far.

    So the Ascians who once threatened our home were no match, and they fell before us, one after another, till none were left. Victory, we thought...

    ...And then came the Light─a flood of pure, blinding radiance, annihilating shadow and color and life itself. Ere long, it will consume our world, leaving naught in its wake but blank perfection."

    One of the final scenes he tells us that they fought and fought and fought until there was no darkness left:

    "We fought and we fought and we fought...until there was no one left to fight. We won...and now our world is being erased from existence.

    We did everything right, everything that was asked of us, and still─still it came to this!

    You of all people should understand! We cannot─we will not falter. We brought our world to the brink of destruction, and now we must save it."

    In one of the next scenes, that's when Minfilia, as the Word of the Mother/Hydaelyn, says she'll travel with their souls back to the First to stop the Flood of Light:

    "Minfilia
    Blessed children of the First. The light of your world hath grown blinding in its radiance, but it is not yet absolute.

    I will hie me to your world and there take unto myself the Light which riseth even now to drown it, as Darkness once did drown another."


    Further from that, once you're in Shadowbringers,
    Ardbert recognizes you and reintroduces himself as Ardbert. iirc it's a dialogue choice with your WoL, but you question his name and he says that they all used names that were used on the Source as opposed to their true names from the First to blend in, and that his name wasn't very creative since he just dropped the 'd' from his name and nothing else. The other choice confirms that he is one and the same:

    ???
    ...You...?
    I know you... You're the Warrior of Light from the Source!

    What will you say?

    The Warrior of Darkness...?

    ???
    What? Did you just... You can hear me!?
    Oh, gods, how long has it been...?

    ...Aye...aye, that was what I called myself in your world... The “Warrior of Darkness.”

    My real name is Ardbert. I used an alias in the Source. A daft one, looking back...

    OR

    And who are you?

    ???
    What? Did you just... You can hear me!?
    Oh, gods, how long has it been...?

    ...“And who are you?” she says. An enemy not worth remembering, apparently...

    My name is Ardbert. In the First, I was a Warrior of Light, but in the Source you knew me as the Warrior of Darkness.

    Ardbert
    If you recall my tale, it was my comrades and I who caused the Flood.
    We thought our home doomed. And so we listened to the Ascians─let them guide us to the Source, and tried to hasten their godsdamned Ardor.

    I remember when we fell, defeated by you and yours. I remember our audience with Minfilia─how she listened to our pleas, and returned our souls to the First.


    The Warriors of Darkness were modeled after Derplander (the midlander WoL we see in cutscenes) and his original party from the 1.0/End of an Era (Answers) cutscenes- his canon name is Meteor- for the sole purpose of having a nice, familiar feeling when seeing them, to be a mirror to the WoL stand-in for FMVs and promotional videos, and the designs were deliberate. It was a nice touch.
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