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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Living Dead is among the best Invulns as of today.

    Second shortest cooldown and provides a heal equal to your max HP over 5 GCDs.
    Holmgang remains the king as it synergize perfectly with WAR very short CDs and strong healing.

    The only weakness with those are continuous damage and lack of immunity to damage down.
    But it's niche and not worth the extra minutes on Bolide and Hallowed ground. HG being a 7 minutes cooldown and its terrible synergy with PLD's kit makes it the worst Invuln.
    IMO Bolide and HG should at least see their cds reduced by 60s. Living Dead would still be stronger but Bolide could compete in some niches.
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    The only weakness with those are continuous damage and lack of immunity to damage down.
    This doesn't work anymore, SE thought ahead of this.

    Busters striking twice in Abyssos will still deal 200-300k dots if it's taken by HG/Bolide, Damage Down still goes through. SEs raid developers are developing ways to avoid Invuln cheesing.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    This doesn't work anymore, SE thought ahead of this.

    Busters striking twice in Abyssos will still deal 200-300k dots if it's taken by HG/Bolide, Damage Down still goes through. SEs raid developers are developing ways to avoid Invuln cheesing.
    Not sure how to feel about this. Sure invuln cheesing could be annoying but these changes defeat the entire purpose of a true invuln, might as well give every tank Holmgang then.

    I already wasn't a fan of the trend they have followed since the last Eden raid tier where they made every mechanic give you damage down, probably because they didn't like how we cheesed their terrible ball mechanic in E6S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    This doesn't work anymore, SE thought ahead of this.

    Busters striking twice in Abyssos will still deal 200-300k dots if it's taken by HG/Bolide, Damage Down still goes through. SEs raid developers are developing ways to avoid Invuln cheesing.
    It's not for every busters thought.
    P5S and P8SP1 are the only busters that applies the super dot.

    You can still Invuln a double TB on P6S and P7S. I haven't checked if DD goes through invuln, I know it was possible on P2S but that's it.

    Since most busters applies a meaty dot, Bolide has some extra values as you won't take dot/auto attack damage during the invuln duration but DRK self healing is kinda negated by it.
    Hallowed Ground takes no damage at all but that's not worth the 7 minutes.
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    You can still Invuln a double TB on P6S and P7S. I haven't checked if DD goes through invuln, I know it was possible on P2S but that's it.
    True, in worst cases buster dots do not calculate the Invulns damage taken, P6S will shove around a 26k dot soloing the shared, around there for P7S.

    Can easily manipulate it in P6S. Invuln the 1st, take it back once bleed dropped off, tank swap as normal. The 3rd buster or further will be a shared. 1st is guaranteed to be Shared, 2nd always spread.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014