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    Development Team: PLEASE PLAY YOUR OWN PVP

    Please take some time and play your own pvp mode before making any more balance updates. If you still think its ok..please put pride to the side and contract out from an experienced pvp development team. At this rate CC will not thrive 6 months from now. There is still time to fix this before interest dissipates and pvp goes back to being completely dead like it has been for years outside of frontline.
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    Yoshi P's played CC on stream and grinded rank all the way to Crystal. What are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSuperior View Post
    Yoshi P's played CC on stream and grinded rank all the way to Crystal. What are you talking about?
    Majority of Issues are outlined in the many other threads below this thread. However to your point, yoshi p did in fact play blm in cc which ultimately resulted in one of the most ridiculous buffs we've ever seen. That buff alone was very telling in the grander scheme of pvp balance ineptitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Please take some time and play your own pvp mode before making any more balance updates. If you still think its ok..please put pride to the side and contract out from an experienced pvp development team. At this rate CC will not thrive 6 months from now. There is still time to fix this before interest dissipates and pvp goes back to being completely dead like it has been for years outside of frontline.
    It's only going to be active as long as the garo event is running and people want those glams/mounts. Then it'll go the way of the feast, especially in its current direction
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSuperior View Post
    Yoshi P's played CC on stream and grinded rank all the way to Crystal. What are you talking about?
    As Monte said, that led to BLM being buffed into oblivion before being slightly nerfed again. It's obvious no one on the PvP team actually plays PvP if they're buffing/nerfing jobs based on winrates. Literally nothing about SCH or AST warranted those nerfs, but since they had less but better players than WHM, CBU3 deemed it necessary to nerf them and buff WHM.

    They're absolute jokers that are completely disconnected from the game mode and seem to base all their decisions around personal preference (BLM) or statistics they take at face value. Hell, it took them four months to make it so DRG couldn't be bind, heavy or half-sleep during their LB, shit like that should've been fixed before launch or on the first patch. Can't forget PLDs still running around abusing cover on Onsal either.
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    As Monte said, that led to BLM being buffed into oblivion before being slightly nerfed again. It's obvious no one on the PvP team actually plays PvP if they're buffing/nerfing jobs based on winrates. Literally nothing about SCH or AST warranted those nerfs, but since they had less but better players than WHM, CBU3 deemed it necessary to nerf them and buff WHM.
    AST and SCH were better than WHM. WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function
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    They removed Spire without changing the abysmal LB timer and Ewer, now AST has nothing unique going for it.

    Dread it. Run from it. Homogenization arrives all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    AST and SCH were better than WHM. WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function
    Bro you are tweaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function
    That's what made WHM extremely valuable for single target bursting though. It has an unpurifiable Pacification every 30 seconds and a laser stun every 60 seconds, how can you add any more to this without being over the top broken?
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    As Monte said, that led to BLM being buffed into oblivion before being slightly nerfed again. It's obvious no one on the PvP team actually plays PvP if they're buffing/nerfing jobs based on winrates. Literally nothing about SCH or AST warranted those nerfs, but since they had less but better players than WHM, CBU3 deemed it necessary to nerf them and buff WHM.

    They're absolute jokers that are completely disconnected from the game mode and seem to base all their decisions around personal preference (BLM) or statistics they take at face value. Hell, it took them four months to make it so DRG couldn't be bind, heavy or half-sleep during their LB, shit like that should've been fixed before launch or on the first patch. Can't forget PLDs still running around abusing cover on Onsal either.
    BLM needed buffs badly. Did they over do it? A little. Was it broken? Not really, but it got nerfs immediately after.

    AST is extremely strong, the nerfs were justified.

    Balance is a tough act. There's always going to be over buffing and over nerfing. WAR seemed broken at first as well and that led to bloodwhetting getting nerfed which made the job basically a free kill and thus they rebuffed it back to 100%. Every pvp game goes through this stuff and balance will never be perfect.
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