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  1. #1
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    Edelgarde's Avatar
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    Edelgard Valentine
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    Ravana
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Yoshi P, you need to give people incentive to be top 100, or people won't bother.

    I got my top 100 title in the first season, and I got my top 30 title for second season, and I really don't have the motivation to climb. The only reason why I'm forcing myself to climb is because I want to kick more bad players out of top 100, which is why I climb with an alt character as well.

    Yoshi P, I understand that you don't want casual players to miss out the rewards, which is why instead of letting top 100 players get exclusive rewards, you would much rather have everyone get the rewards via the series. But allow me to tell you that this is a bad idea, because once players get their top 100, top 30, top 1 title, they have no reason to go back in. We already got the title to brag about.

    There's a better way with how you handle the rewards for the hardcore and casual pvpers. Like say if we're on season 4 now, top 100 players from that season gets an exclusive mount. So we'll have that mount when season 4 ends, and then we can show it off to people during season 5. However, by season 6, casual players who did not get to top 100 may get the exclusive mount from season 4 with trophy crystals at the wolves den.

    So therefore, everybody wins! It's the same thing as the incentive to raid. The savage raiders may get the highest iLvl gear, but the casual players are just going to catch up to the hardcore raiders with gear progression in next patch. It's the same thing with pvp, we're the early adopters of the exclusive glamour and gear, but by next season, the casual players may have it as well.

    You already fixed up the win-trading issue. It's not the perfect solution, but what you did really turns away the win-traders. So this is something you can implement easily. Without the incentive to be top 100, it's going to die early again in data centers like Materia. I'm only doing it right now because I want to continue to support the content on this dead cope Materia (OCE) data center that doesn't have enough population for me to ignore and then expect people to keep it alive.

    I'm aware people can argue that this is just Materia's issue, because we don't have the population. And that is true, but honestly, I still feel like it would be a better idea. I do want both types of players have a win-win situation.
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    Last edited by Edelgarde; 08-28-2022 at 02:58 AM.

  2. #2
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Edelgarde View Post
    I got my top 100 title in the first season, and I got my top 30 title for second season, and I really don't have the motivation to climb. The only reason why I'm forcing myself to climb is because I want to kick more bad players out of top 100, which is why I climb with an alt character as well.

    Yoshi P, I understand that you don't want casual players to miss out the rewards, which is why instead of letting top 100 players get exclusive rewards, you would much rather have everyone get the rewards via the series. But allow me to tell you that this is a bad idea, because once players get their top 100, top 30, top 1 title, they have no reason to go back in. We already got the title to brag about.

    There's a better way with how you handle the rewards for the hardcore and casual pvpers. Like say if we're on season 4 now, top 100 players from that season gets an exclusive mount. So we'll have that mount when season 4 ends, and then we can show it off to people during season 5. However, by season 6, casual players who did not get to top 100 may get the exclusive mount from season 4 with trophy crystals at the wolves den.

    So therefore, everybody wins! It's the same thing as the incentive to raid. The savage raiders may get the highest iLvl gear, but the casual players are just going to catch up to the hardcore raiders with gear progression in next patch. It's the same thing with pvp, we're the early adopters of the exclusive glamour and gear, but by next season, the casual players may have it as well.

    You already fixed up the win-trading issue. It's not the perfect solution, but what you did really turns away the win-traders. So this is something you can implement easily. Without the incentive to be top 100, it's going to die early again in data centers like Materia. I'm only doing it right now because I want to continue to support the content on this dead cope Materia (OCE) data center that doesn't have enough population for me to ignore and then expect people to keep it alive.

    I'm aware people can argue that this is just Materia's issue, because we don't have the population. And that is true, but honestly, I still feel like it would be a better idea. I do want both types of players have a win-win situation.
    I'll tell you why people don't bother still

    Win trading
    Lack of duo ques
    two of the maps are freaking annoying to play on
    Gameplay is just not fun enough.
    You can play other modes to get season rewards (thank god.)

    real talk, anybody who gets crystal rank in CC is either /really/ lucky or just win trading.
    (14)

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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Just let top 100 die. Leave casual CC, Frontlines and Rival wings

    or go play another game
    edit (to not sound too rude). this game CANT support a true balanced pvp, cause netcode, server issues etc.. so keep casual and call it a day (that what i meant). Tired of having mounts and glamours locked behind myself getting lucked to have a working purify or smt
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    Last edited by Garten; 08-28-2022 at 10:18 PM.

  4. #4
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    Osmond's Avatar
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    Danielle Osmond
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    As much that SOOOOOOunds good, it didn't grab the majority audience hence it was a failure....I mean releasing another variant of the mounts for the majority to get. ......they have to make the top 100, top 30, top 10 items as hyper shiny as possible. No crap, the best looking item, with glitter or over the top vfx on top of that mount if ppl participate in PvP. Top 100 is eeeh vfx, top 30 is, "oh that's cool" vfx, top 10....."holy ship, I gots to get that". Now those who didn't, they can get the same mount by spending trophy crystals, but it won't be as shiny or have that color variant. At least ppl have something, participation trophy I guess, but it'll encourage ppl to get THAT shiny thing.
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    Nanne's Avatar
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Keep the rewards only at adventure plates This way more people eventually get their hands on the top 100 rewards instead of mostly the same people every time like it was in Feast. Putting the main reward to the battlepass was a great addition
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    I'll tell you why people don't bother still

    Win trading
    Lack of duo ques
    two of the maps are freaking annoying to play on
    Gameplay is just not fun enough.
    You can play other modes to get season rewards (thank god.)

    real talk, anybody who gets crystal rank in CC is either /really/ lucky or just win trading.
    + People with 2/3/4/5th or whatever how many chars who are really good, but went on to block players that are still good but just not as good from the ranks... >_>
    (6)

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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    real talk, anybody who gets crystal rank in CC is either /really/ lucky or just win trading.
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Keep the rewards only at adventure plates This way more people eventually get their hands on the top 100 rewards instead of mostly the same people every time like it was in Feast. Putting the main reward to the battlepass was a great addition
    i agree with this, the whole top 100 thing needed to die because it was causing a hell of alot of win trading
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  9. #9
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    Towa Musa
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    You keep telling yourself that, maybe you will sleep at night.
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    You keep telling yourself that, maybe you will sleep at night.
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