Please give us the Ancients' Mask

[Darkpaw]

Emet is absolutely a villain he blew up 7 planets because he didnt like the races on it for gods sake

Yes, he personally caused all 7 rejoinings, and wow way to simplify and minimize his reasonings. Im not saying Emet Selch was a good guy or a hero but he’s been made to be more of a tragic figure. Someone trying to do whatever he can to save his own people. It has nothing to do with his like or dislike of the current races.

It has literally everything to do with him trying to save his world and his people from a fate that was forced upon them because one of their member’s asked a stupid and flawed question

[Kazhar]

If I had to hazard a guess the reason why the Sophist Robe doesn't allow the hood/mask to be worn up is once again due to problems getting it to 'fit' on hrothgar faces which of course are not human shaped at all (remember, the mask is designed for a human face, not a lion's). So to avoid such issues they wrote it into the story that visitors to Elpis had to take their masks off and hoods down, which is why the Sophist set is like that by default.

I still definetely support this though - maybe even have the possibility of getting Azem's mask, even if it's just a replica.

Hrothgar are able to wear the Ktisis masks (just not the hoods, same as Viera) so I have no idea where you got that from.
Actually I don't think there's any piece of gear Viera could wear that Hrothgar didn't. But the reverse is true.

The true reason they removed the hoods in Elpis is likely because it was harder to make the characters expressive if you didn't see most of their face for hours of MSQ gameplay. I know some of you are somehow eager to blame us for the lack of content but it's completely baseless.

Also nice to see the great community once again in action and ready to throw us under the bus the second they have the opportunity to.

[Avatre]

Pretty much any hairstyle with bangs will clip through existing masks/circlets.

Sometimes it looks good that way too, not very often, but sometimes.

[XiRon]

Yes, he personally caused all 7 rejoinings, and wow way to simplify and minimize his reasonings. Im not saying Emet Selch was a good guy or a hero but he’s been made to be more of a tragic figure. Someone trying to do whatever he can to save his own people. It has nothing to do with his like or dislike of the current races.

It has literally everything to do with him trying to save his world and his people from a fate that was forced upon them because one of their member’s asked a stupid and flawed question

"it has nothing to do with his dislike of different races" Okay I guess Garlemald exterminating other races and destroying their cultures because the guy puppetering Solus had a big sad over some shit from 12000 years ago, silly me. One Race philosphies are cool and fine if you play enough sad naruto flute music over it

[Kazhar]

Emet-Selch apologists are as bad as Venat apologists.

[XiRon]

Hrothgar are able to wear the Ktisis masks (just not the hoods, same as Viera) so I have no idea where you got that from.
Actually I don't think there's any piece of gear Viera could wear that Hrothgar didn't. But the reverse is true.

The true reason they removed the hoods in Elpis is likely because it was harder to make the characters expressive if you didn't see most of their face for hours of MSQ gameplay. I know some of you are somehow eager to blame us for the lack of content but it's completely baseless.

Also nice to see the great community once again in action and ready to throw us under the bus the second they have the opportunity to.

Well god Kazhar the golden children couldve had 12 ultimates by now if not for the devs....taking until 6.2 to give hrothgar anything worth a crap.

[XiRon]

Emet-Selch apologists are as bad as Venat apologists.

Didnt you love how the story stripped away agency from YOUR CHARACTER to say "you besties with a super facist before the sundering" that really endeared the writing of shb and endwalker to me

[Theodric]

They're all just pixels on a screen at the end of the day and not everybody views a game through the biased lens of CRT and social media 'commentary'.

Contrary to popular belief, if someone is targeted for genocide they have no obligation to just roll over and die if forced into a position where in order to survive they have to do shady things themselves. By all means, strip away the plot armour from the protagonists and see what they have to resort to without a quick, convenient fix in the form of the Warrior Light and see what happens.

Furthermore, understanding why something happens isn't equal to throwing one's full support behind a particular act.

None of this is actually relevant to the premise of the thread, though - which is based around the concept of requesting a cool mask to be added to the game as glamour.

[XiRon]

They're all just pixels on a screen at the end of the day and not everybody views a game through the biased lens of CRT and social media 'commentary'.

Contrary to popular belief, if someone is targeted for genocide they have no obligation to just roll over and die if forced into a position where in order to survive they have to do shady things themselves. By all means, strip away the plot armour from the protagonists and see what they have to resort to without a quick, convenient fix in the form of the Warrior Light and see what happens.

Furthermore, understanding why something happens isn't equal to throwing one's full support behind a particular act.

None of this is actually relevant to the premise of the thread, though - which is based around the concept of requesting a cool mask to be added to the game as glamour.

The shady things is destroying 13 worlds because he cant deal with change. His race still existed, albiet in a less aether-dense form. And he couldnt deal with that so he resorted to genocide. Nobody is under any obligation to view him as sympathetic or understandable, especially not when he furthered a One Race philosphy that targetted Ala Mhigo, Doma, Dalmasca, and Bozja, and completely destroyed their peoples and cultures for the half ingame century.

People get so so offended when you point of the facts of Emets actions like I thought he was your bestie arent you proud he commited 7 planet-scale genocides :/?

[Lauront]

Emet-Selch apologists are as bad as Venat apologists.

It's kind of a weak case of "both are as bad", when the poster in question is making rather valid points as to why he is not straightforwardly a villain (the attributions being made to him by the other poster aren't quite correct - he exploits the Garlean resentment against their neighbours but isn't the one who instilled it; that comes from their history with their neighbours and before that), much as Venat, whatever the story tries to say, is not straighforwardly a hero - nuance which I'd add the Omega quest-line points to - and tbh, it seems rather irrelevant at this point to whether an outfit will be added or not. Given that the context here is how SE regards him, rather than one's personal assessment of him (which one is perfectly entitled to), it's fair to say it's more complicated than just labelling him a villain. Besides, they've opened up some 'villain' outfits for player use, anyway.

People get so so offended when you point of the facts of Emets actions like I thought he was your bestie arent you proud he commited 7 planet-scale genocides :/?

I mean if you wanna talk "facts" (you're wrong on his people still existing in the same form but for aetheric density - it's well known they differed along a whole catalogue of traits, in addition to having their entire civilisation and history of it wiped out), we can point to the fact that Ms Herois deliberately spared him knowing what he'd do after she genocided his people. But like I said above, his in-story treatment, as well as further elaborations given by Ishikawa and Yoshi, certainly do not aim to portray him as a pure villain, any more than they do to portray Venat as purely virtuous.