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    Savage tier has been datamined.

    Sad to see some people will go to great lengths to ruin the fun of a fresh tier.

    Please Square Enix, in the future, Don't patch the content into the game files until the day of release.

    This is why we can't have nice things like a week break before savage.
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    Savage also gets datamined when it's released alongside everything else. Literally minutes after the patch gets downloaded.

    Also, what has been datamined exactly? If it's weapons, mounts, 3d models and debuff descriptions, it's just business as usual and not anything that relevant for World First.
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    Even if SQEX patch those hours before release, it will be datamined.
    That one week delay is amazing and hopefully they'll keep it.

    One thing though, the datamine only reveals a part of a puzzle piece. We still lack the half the piece and we don't know what mechanics will be with that piece.
    With those we can only make baseless conjectures.


    Thought I do agree at least the assets shouldn't be in game and only downloaded close to release.
    Some mobile games only download the assets when they're needed, obviously it's not possible in real time with FF XIV because some people still have very bad internet connections.
    One thing they could do is trigger the download ingame when you enter the content, if it respect the release date. All missing assets could be replaced with a placeholder.

    It could also helps with the game total size as many content from previous expansions aren't really used today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Savage also gets datamined when it's released alongside everything else. Literally minutes after the patch gets downloaded.

    Also, what has been datamined exactly? If it's weapons, mounts, 3d models and debuff descriptions, it's just business as usual and not anything that relevant for World First.
    All the extra fight related things (mechanics icons, abilities, boss animations, everything) that is not in normal mode.
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    That might be possible in part if there is some ability and animation data but the rotation of the casts and the way they are used is information held on the server.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    All the extra fight related things (mechanics icons, abilities, boss animations, everything) that is not in normal mode.
    So business as usual then.
    I've only been here since Shadowbringers, but all final floor extra phases for Eden got datamined before the patch got live. And that was before the one week delay.
    And no, not everything. Most information about the fight are not on the client.
    We can't know which of the icons are related to which floor too, same for the casts etc.
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    They need to make the blocks in the mine out of bedrock to stop anyone from digging. Just hope they aren't playing in creative mode.

    What is even the point of data mining? Why are people so obsessed with knowing what is coming? If I ran a game and I knew people were datamining it, I'd constantly put false things in the patches to mess with people. I'd also not use the actual content that was data mined.

    You found out the Samurai job was coming before it was hinted at or announced by datamining it? Now it will never come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    They need to make the blocks in the mine out of bedrock to stop anyone from digging. Just hope they aren't playing in creative mode.

    What is even the point of data mining? Why are people so obsessed with knowing what is coming? If I ran a game and I knew people were datamining it, I'd constantly put false things in the patches to mess with people. I'd also not use the actual content that was data mined.

    You found out the Samurai job was coming before it was hinted at or announced by datamining it? Now it will never come out.
    Sure, if you could afford to waste hundreds hours of dev time and tons of money to spite a few people on the internet.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 08-30-2022 at 05:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    They need to make the blocks in the mine out of bedrock to stop anyone from digging. Just hope they aren't playing in creative mode.

    What is even the point of data mining? Why are people so obsessed with knowing what is coming? If I ran a game and I knew people were datamining it, I'd constantly put false things in the patches to mess with people. I'd also not use the actual content that was data mined.

    You found out the Samurai job was coming before it was hinted at or announced by datamining it? Now it will never come out.
    Would love to see them delay savage release for a month out of spite for the dataminers, and just say if it happens again, no more savage.

    Community would literally kill the dataminers.
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    its to save time,instead of having a patch for every event they can just get all that stuff ready before hand so all they have to do is turn on the quest at a later date.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    They need to make the blocks in the mine out of bedrock to stop anyone from digging. Just hope they aren't playing in creative mode.

    What is even the point of data mining? Why are people so obsessed with knowing what is coming? If I ran a game and I knew people were datamining it, I'd constantly put false things in the patches to mess with people. I'd also not use the actual content that was data mined.

    You found out the Samurai job was coming before it was hinted at or announced by datamining it? Now it will never come out.
    people are excited/interested for whats to come and even if there was a "bedrock" to stop people wouldn't take long before people cracked it anyway.
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