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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    Self-improvement can only take you so far until you the barrier of useless teammates. The amount of games I've lost at 9-2-10 because my teammates went 0-4-5 is too much to bear. I don't know what short term goals I'm supposed to focus exactly, since a couple of bad games can drop you out of tiers now. I've been working on the emotions bit though, emotionally disconnecting myself from matches and have 0 expectations for the game mode really is helping. Can't say if that's a good or bad thing though.
    Don't get me wrong, you are still affected by your teammates. Like the absolute best players don't have 100% win rates, they are probably closer to like 60% or something. You can't win all the time with random teammates. But if game after game, you are always performing well, and by well I mean always Top 2 damage in your teams, sooner or later you'll climb. You can only get unlucky for so long.

    However, I agree that low Crystal rating will be wild at times. Going back to Diamond as soon as you hit Crystal Rating 0 ? It will be wild at first when people are Crystal Rank 100 to 300, but once people start to get decent points going (like above 1000), when you have to lose 10 games in a row to de-rank, it's more deserved.

    Just need to weather the storm of lower tiers and low Crystal rating.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    I don't know what short term goals I'm supposed to focus exactly
    I said you shouldn't focus on short term goals You'll drive yourself crazy. This isn't a 100m dash, but a marathon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    Self-improvement can only take you so far until you reach the barrier of useless teammates.
    It's possible to do everything right and still lose. That's life. Take that saying to heart so it can help you move on and try again.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    I was pointing out how you disrespected/dismissed Azuri just because they are from an EU server while boasting about your PvP background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WOtAz1PZA8
    1. Is that a bad thing to do when someone literally brings up knowing what you're talking about and disrespects/dismisses you first?
    2. It's because it's deader. I'd be saying the same thing if someone was from OCE. Even in League of Legends and other similar games, different countries have different strengths/meta's and if you don't have access to a large group of players/the strongest players, then you naturally don't develop as much or see the same issues/problems in the game.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    I did that already. Kept getting a terrible DRG who couldn't break 200k damage, so I switched to DRG. Next game I got him on my team as WAR, I'll leave the results of that match to your imagination.



    Self-improvement can only take you so far until you reach the barrier of useless teammates. The amount of games I've lost at 9-2-10 because my teammates went 0-4-5 is too much to bear. I don't know what short term goals I'm supposed to focus exactly, since a couple of bad games can drop you out of tiers now. I've been working on the emotions bit though, emotionally disconnecting myself from matches and have 0 expectations for the game mode really is helping. Can't say if that's a good or bad thing though.
    Its not and its why nobody really enjoys CC, why the hell would you wanna play a mode that pair you up with people who play like crap 95% of the time? its also why im glad that the only reward for this is a stupid frame and i hope they keep it that way because the majority of people do /not/ actually like the mode.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    Don't get me wrong, you are still affected by your teammates. Like the absolute best players don't have 100% win rates, they are probably closer to like 60% or something. You can't win all the time with random teammates. But if game after game, you are always performing well, and by well I mean always Top 2 damage in your teams, sooner or later you'll climb. You can only get unlucky for so long.

    However, I agree that low Crystal rating will be wild at times. Going back to Diamond as soon as you hit Crystal Rating 0 ? It will be wild at first when people are Crystal Rank 100 to 300, but once people start to get decent points going (like above 1000), when you have to lose 10 games in a row to de-rank, it's more deserved.

    Just need to weather the storm of lower tiers and low Crystal rating.
    I just don't know if it's worth it to be honest. Feels like players care about the mode, but it's nothing but an afterthought to the devs. It's incredibly frustrating trying to play a team-based, objective PvP mode with 0 comms and the only form of coordination is marking enemies with numbers and hoping that your teams don't completely ignore it.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    2. It's because it's deader.
    Doesn't mean EU players don't have the right to share their point of view.
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    Last edited by Petite; 08-30-2022 at 08:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    Doesn't mean EU players don't have the right to share their point of view.
    True. But that should mean they should be the last people to dismiss others as well (next to OCE).
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    True. But that should mean they should be the last people to dismiss others as well (next to OCE).
    I mean with this below statement of yours, I also thought you didn't know what you were talking about so I don't blame them. If you hit someone with for 40-45K, you either had buffs or they were a DRG in Gierskogul or had some other debuff from your team.
    It's impossible to hit a DRG LB for more than 37.5K by yourself on a dummy.

    "cannot crit in pvp -> interesting considering i've dragoon lb'd for 40-45K without team buffs on me, guess that must've been a bug or a wide spread on the damage value rng in season 1 when i was full-life'ing ppl by myself on the crystal"

    It's not like they said what they said out of the blue.
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    Last edited by Petite; 08-30-2022 at 08:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    I mean with this below statement of yours, I also thought you didn't know what you were talking about so I don't blame them. If you hit someone with for 40-45K, you either had buffs or they were a DRG in Gierskogul or had some other debuff from your team. It's impossible to hit a DRG LB for more than 37.5K by yourself on a dummy.

    "cannot crit in pvp -> interesting considering i've dragoon lb'd for 40-45K without team buffs on me, guess that must've been a bug or a wide spread on the damage value rng in season 1 when i was full-life'ing ppl by myself on the crystal"

    It's not like they said what they said out of the blue.
    That's why I said it had to be a bug prob, because I was stupid hyped and stopped getting mad when I was 1shotted by DRG's seemingly randomly. Back in Season 1, I hadn't even read the description about Life of the Dragon since I assumed it worked the same as PvE and didn't know it could buff my spear etc. I had like 150-200 ranked games floating in Diamond 5 to Diamond 1 trying to hit Crystal in Season 1 with DRG so I was just always watching my LB's. I used to be a tester for my old game and we had damage value bugs during a revamp that changed the combat system (like what they just did for PvP actions) and there were several weapons that didn't crit properly in PvE anymore, things that were supposed to be guaranteed crits that weren't, or moves that were supposed to have X amount of damage ticks but would get 1-2 less ticks every 4-5 attempts of that move.

    P.S. - And watching my old livestreams, there's attacks that have !! next to them and attacks that don't, but I see one of my spears that has !! and only shows 16K which means they keep the PvE indication of a Direct Hit/Crit even though the damage value wouldn't be increased according to you guys saying there are no crits. So if you ever have buffs or a wide window on the damage value RNG of the tick itself, that's gonna look like something it's not xD That's interesting to keep the visual indication but not change the damage.
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    Last edited by VoidsentStatus; 08-30-2022 at 09:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    That's why I said it had to be a bug prob, because I was stupid hyped and stopped getting mad when I was 1shotted by DRG's seemingly randomly. Back in Season 1, I hadn't even read the description about Life of the Dragon since I assumed it worked the same as PvE and didn't know it could buff my spear etc. I had like 150-200 ranked games floating in Diamond 5 to Diamond 1 trying to hit Crystal in Season 1 with DRG so I was just always watching my LB's. I used to be a tester for my old game and we had damage value bugs during a revamp that changed the combat system (like what they just did for PvP actions) and there were several weapons that didn't crit properly in PvE anymore, things that were supposed to be guaranteed crits that weren't, or moves that were supposed to have X amount of damage ticks but would get 1-2 less ticks every 4-5 attempts of that move.
    You've lost me. The point I made a little earlier is that your page 1 post had a proven flaw, which made people question your takes. I don't know what you're trying to point out with this here paragraph.
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