Impossible to escape gold.

[GordonGeeko]

I was borderline considering to gonna give my input, but I am not sure how my EU pvp exp might relate to the experiences you guys have in NA - is the average NA pvp player just this bad or something?

Like I believe you, but man I have never had this experience on EU Light - I'm climbing out of Gold a second time this season (World transfer reset my rank) and I take like two days tops from Unranked to Plat.

Granted I have a few more hours available and I can carry my own weight and some extra given my general exp with pvp, but man I have not encountered the horror stories you guys seem to deal with, yikes.

Honestly, yes. NA players are that bad. But they are number one at thinking they are number one.

Does not matter that season after season, it's always the same people climbing up the rankings. If these players managed to do it and they didn't, then they were cheating or they keep being the luckiest people in the world. It has to be, otherwise it would just be that you're not good enough.

Never mind the fact that people stream their whole journeys on several data center and climb up time after time. Never mind the fact that a lot of people at the top are mostly very experienced Frontlines players that can dominate their games.

If you look at the Top 100s all around, the average number of wins looks to be between 60 and 80. Not many horror stories of above 200 wins.

All cheaters obviously.

[Towa-Musa]

Honestly, yes. NA players are that bad. But they are number one at thinking they are number one.

Does not matter that season after season, it's always the same people climbing up the rankings. If these players managed to do it and they didn't, then they were cheating or they keep being the luckiest people in the world. It has to be, otherwise it would just be that you're not good enough.

Never mind the fact that people stream their whole journeys on several data center and climb up time after time. Never mind the fact that a lot of people at the top are mostly very experienced Frontlines players that can dominate their games.

If you look at the Top 100s all around, the average number of wins looks to be between 60 and 80. Not many horror stories of above 200 wins.

All cheaters obviously.

when you got people in the top 100 admitting behind closed doors that they cheated? yeah id say they either got really lucky or cheated hella hard repeatedly.