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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Casuals getting put in Ranked CC matches.

    Pretty antithetical to the entire point of "ranked". People who are playing casual take it less serious than those who choose ranked.

    Proof:



    Completely separately:

    Gold rank is getting pitted against Bronze, sizeable skill gap in matching.

    WTF is going on with the matching?
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    You have to win 3 (or 4?) games to reach Bronze 3 in order to have a rank displayed. They are queueing for ranked, it's just one of their very first games.
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    Ophelia Irika
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    Welcome to the beginning of the season.
    If you haven't heard everyone's rank was reset to Bronze 3. Games will look like this for a minute, because majority are starting to climbing. So give it about another week for folks to climb, especially if you're in gold.

    One thing I will agree with is the matchmaking being weird. I was being thrown into diamond rooms while I was gold rank last season. I would like to know if matching between 3 ranks is intentional.
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    Towa Musa
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    fun fact, you will be matched with casuals regardless because people who belong in the non ranked mode will deliberately play ranked instead because its worth more their time
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    Yeah, that's an unranked player, someone that's very new and that has not reached Bronze yet.

    Depends on your definition of casual, but it's not someone who queued "Casual game" and ended up in a Ranked match lol.

    I'm not sure I agree that Unranked players should be in the same games as Gold players.

    I prefer the old matchmaking system :

    Unranked-Bronze-Silver could play together
    Silver and Gold could play together, but Gold couldn't play with Bronze or Unranked

    Having Gold with Unranked players in the same match seems a bit much...
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    Danielle Osmond
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    Yeah, that's an unranked player, someone that's very new and that has not reached Bronze yet.

    Depends on your definition of casual, but it's not someone who queued "Casual game" and ended up in a Ranked match lol.

    I'm not sure I agree that Unranked players should be in the same games as Gold players.

    I prefer the old matchmaking system :

    Unranked-Bronze-Silver could play together
    Silver and Gold could play together, but Gold couldn't play with Bronze or Unranked

    Having Gold with Unranked players in the same match seems a bit much...
    Wha? You miss the old system? What changed your mind like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    Wha? You miss the old system? What changed your mind like that?
    Not having to deal with people win trading for 3 entire tiers xD (since you can play with unranked, its possible to get matches with ppl throwing on purpose all the way until plat)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    Wha? You miss the old system? What changed your mind like that?
    The old Feast system, which had both demotion and matchmaking rules based purely on your rank.

    This new CC system just has limited demotion and matchmaking that is wild AF. Not worthy of much praise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    Not having to deal with people win trading for 3 entire tiers xD (since you can play with unranked, its possible to get matches with ppl throwing on purpose all the way until plat)
    I’m just laughing at this point. I knew this was going to be bad when the devs announce the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    The old Feast system, which had both demotion and matchmaking rules based purely on your rank.

    This new CC system just has limited demotion and matchmaking that is wild AF. Not worthy of much praise.
    Ain’t nobody talking about the feast lmao. We’re talking strictly CC. Don’t try to walk away from this lol. You’re hype got us this dumpster fire.

    Seriously, they might turn it back to S1/2 ranking if the feedback is heavily negative.
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