Endwalker Story sucked and it's time to admit it

[Tenken7]

Now that the honeymoon period is over, I'd like to say that Endwalker's ending sucked and just flat-out ruined what could have been a great story.

A spoiled brat with, daddy issues, destroyed an entire civilization because life is so "mean". What an awful ending. Also, you don't just introduce new characters that late in the saga. Just terrible storytelling.

"Oh no, someone dares to criticize FFXIV!? quick, get the noose!!!" <--is what I expect from the loud minority here who rejects any real form of feedback because "feelings" but, this needs to be said and facts are facts and that's that.

TL;DR: Endwalker ending was terrible.

[Listrella]

that's your opinion, doesn't mean everyone else shares it. I think endwalker was the best expansion story personally. and a few lines from you isn't going to change my mind on that.

[aveyond-dreams]

Endwalker fell short of the standard I held this game's storytelling to, so I went so far as to retell the story myself. I believe this speaks for itself as to my thoughts.

[Tenken7]

Awesome, I'll give that a read!

[Ransu]

Played through it twice now. Still think its amazing. Not as good as ShB, but a solid ending to the ascian arc.

Endwalker fell short of the standard I held this game's storytelling to, so I went so far as to retell the story myself. I believe this speaks for itself as to my thoughts.

Wow that was bad. Thank God you're not a writer.

[Theodric]

You're not alone. I liked some aspects of Endwalker but it has proven to be a very divisive expansion - especially for a lot of people invested in the story and those who simply enjoy logical, consistent world building. The strange attempts to justify genocide and paint the culprit as a 'herois' is also rather strange.

The decision to artificially conclude major ongoing storylines in the same expansion also left them with not enough time to build up naturally and breathe. Even in the most recent patch things are arguably moving too quickly.

[Tenken7]

You're not alone. I liked some aspects of Endwalker but it has proven to be a very divisive expansion - especially for a lot of people invested in the story and those who simply enjoy logical, consistent world building. The strange attempts to justify genocide and paint the culprit as a 'herois' is also rather strange.

The decision to artificially conclude major ongoing storylines in the same expansion also left them with not enough time to build up naturally and breathe. Even in the most recent patch things are arguably moving too quickly.

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I agree with everything you said.

[Delily]

The strange attempts to justify genocide and paint the culprit as a 'herois' is also rather strange.

The decision to artificially conclude major ongoing storylines in the same expansion also left them with not enough time to build up naturally and breathe. Even in the most recent patch things are arguably moving too quickly.

I disagree with the OP's opinion, as I liked Endwalker's story. However, I admit I am confused by people who throw out the genocide argument. It was made pretty clear with the summoning of Zodiark that eventually all life would be sacrificed to fuel Zodiark to create a facsimile of the world they once had. So, the choice was to sacrifice everyone to Zodiark or sunder the world and give mankind a chance of survival. Or are people thinking there's a third option to stop the Endsinger and preserve life? The ancients admitted they would not have known how to deal with Meteion had Venat told them.

A spoiled brat with, daddy issues, destroyed an entire civilization because life is so "mean". What an awful ending. Also, you don't just introduce new characters that late in the saga. Just terrible storytelling.

That's a surface-level understanding of Meteion. The villain was always Hermes and his disagreement with how the ancients dealt with creations leading to his nihilism. Meteion and the Endsinger were just the tools of that. The point was to show how the ancients' callous disregard for life led to their undoing.

[Thenightvortex]

I disagree with the OP's opinion, as I liked Endwalker's story. However, I admit I am confused by people who throw out the genocide argument. It was made pretty clear with the summoning of Zodiark that eventually all life would be sacrificed to fuel Zodiark to create a facsimile of the world they once had. So, the choice was to sacrifice everyone to Zodiark or sunder the world and give mankind a chance of survival. Or are people thinking there's a third option to stop the Endsinger and preserve life? The ancients admitted they would not have known how to deal with Meteion had Venat told them.



That's a surface-level understanding of Meteion. The villain was always Hermes and his disagreement with how the ancients dealt with creations leading to his nihilism. Meteion and the Endsinger were just the tools of that. The point was to show how the ancients' callous disregard for life led to their undoing.

There is no indication that all life would eventually be sacrificed. There were three planned sacrifices we know of, and all were with a particular purpose. If their people would be brought back, there would be no reason for the ancients to continue. Also the only way the ancients have admitted that they wouldn’t have been able to deal with Meteion is Emet-Selch giving merit to Venat’s plan in the end, they still did not get a fair chance at stopping the cataclysm.

[Lauront]

The point was to show how the ancients' callous disregard for life led to their undoing.

Doesn't bode well for the sundered then, now does it? In fact, Amon did seem quite ready to condemn them as well.

Equally though, it has nothing to do with her own 'test', which was focused on dealing with despair (or how she thought that should be done... granted, "it's complicated"), not anything to do with the above.