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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    It sucked so much that i cried for two weeks.
    im still crying over it. well, more like sobbing intetnally for the people lost and lives destroyed.
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    How does Alexander even know about Meition, nothing on Etheris knows she exists other than Venat, how can Alexander factor in something it can't know about
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    Man I wish Alexander could work its magic and give us a better expansion
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    When you can look and move through the infinite expanse of time and possibility, there's not a whole lot you can't know.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    How does Alexander even know about Meition, nothing on Etheris knows she exists other than Venat, how can Alexander factor in something it can't know about
    Did Alexander answer '42' or something like that? And then start spouting off about the computer that would follow -- one the size of a planet, with organic living beings serving as part of the programming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    How does Alexander even know about Meition, nothing on Etheris knows she exists other than Venat, how can Alexander factor in something it can't know about
    It's a magical robot that can predict the future, and maybe see the past as well. Unless a direct statement is made that lays out the scope of its powers, it can see however much of the universe the authors want it to see.
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    It's also never explained what exactly Alexander is using for its past/present/future sight. Is it reading from the Lifestream itself? Is it connected to Etheirys's memory, and thus is able to see quite literally everything that has happened on the planet in the past and is using that to calculate the future? We will probably never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidurgu-12 View Post
    im still crying over it. well, more like sobbing intetnally for the people lost and lives destroyed.
    Except for a very particular subset of people, their deaths are perfectly fine and permissible. ;3
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 09-04-2022 at 04:27 AM. Reason: Maybe if I find the Elden Ring it'll save me from this folly on the Forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Also, a factor in its calculations is its own impact on the aether of the land around it, so it's not just "is this the best possible thing that could happen" but "would I improve or detract from the state of the world in the long run by interfering" and has concluded that there is no scenario where interference is worth the cost.
    I suppose what caused the confusion then for that poster is partly the wording here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Alexander already calculated out the outcome of every possible alteration to the timeline, in past, present, and future. Alexander probably could have even altered the events on Elpis if it wanted to. It decided that we were on the optimal timeline and deliberately removed itself from the equation in order to prevent others from meddling with it. Reflect on that if you will.
    So really to be correct, the bolded requires a "...given the aetheric cost for the primal in question to alter it" qualifier.

    Though with it appended, their supposed "QED" begins to appear as though it's written on a scruffy paper note that can just as readily be scrunched up and discarded in the bin, as need dictates. Granted, that'd be the case with or without it.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 09-04-2022 at 11:08 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Really, I think what should have happened is our boi Alex offing himself FROM THE START and saving us a whole bunch of trouble. I mean, he was gonna commit hari-kiri anyway right?



    Whatever helps you sleep at night and dismiss other's opinions, I suppose.

    All I'm saying is, if you were truly still in mourning over Endwalker you'd realize the true victims of the narrative are the Ancients. Instead, you spend all your time extolling the virtues of and defending Endwalker's plot on these here yonder forums of yore. Nobody of import died amongst the Sundered, so if not the Ancients who are you mourning? Ergo, you find their deaths permissible and do not find their demises a tragedy. Or, at least not as much of a tragedy as the few feckless Sundered who turned into monsters and died because Mother made it so. In closing for the sake of posterity I'll just go ahead and add this:

    "Psssst. Hail Hydaelyn."
    how about the blasphemies and their victims? the children twisted on screen who devoured their parents soon after? a nation of brainwashed people driven to the brink? and yes the ancients. my original statement was an embellishment but it still stands that i do think ew is a story of tragedy and hope.
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