6.2 MSQ Story Review

[Xeronia]

Oh good to know I wasn't the only one disappointed with the MSQ this go, it feels like I am in a bad anime filler arc in my opinion. I liked the visuals and all but the actual story just seems...dull. This may be in part to I know I will never see characters who should rightfully be handling this involved because they are locked behind doing a trial series, all ShB role quests, and Void Quests. I will also say the main villain just being the "Meanwhile in Garlemal- The Void" hasn't been very interesting especially when it is just a FF4 copy paste name/look person thus far and there isn't much to make the character not just a banking on nostaglia mess. I find this very odd after Eden basically did FF8 in FF14 terms and had proved they can make a story based on that nostalgia without directly copy/pasting stuff.

Can I also throw in how much of a mess having a trial that was higher ilvl then the dungeon was for all my "return for story only" friends? So many people I knew had to stop and turn around to gear up a bit more as they were sitting between 575-585 and it was a common issue I saw in NN as well. I would say for a game that encourages people to do just as I described having that high an ilvl wall was a bit of a misstep. Admittedly this shouldn't be taken into my enjoyment of the patch but hearing how many people I knew have anger at this exact thing obviously didn't sit well with me, especially after there really was little point for that to be MSQ at all in my opinion.

My overall take away is the game couldn't hold my attention and as something else released the same day I went to play that instead after completing the MSQ and raid storylines. I did mean to check out Island Sanctuary but again the game just hasn't been able to hold my attention.

Edit: Can I also say how much I hate I got pigeonholed into ignoring my former choices on Zenos? So if I picked in SB I did want to try to be his friend and then picked "That I can't deny" I guess that never mattered huh?

[VelKallor]

WoL : I went there and slapped two archfiends lol ur sister is weak"

You are missing the point. The memoriant, the ones even capable of this, are supposed to be dead. ALL of them. Thats the x factor, the one thing they didnt expect, didnt account for. Voidsent cannot die, but they CAN be permanently crystallised.

The balance of power has shifted...oddly enough because of Zenos. In death, he handed us a deadly weapon.

[Bhearil]

Basically plot armor galore: Almost as soon as we arrive we casually find ex-Zenos avatar, that casually reacts to the Crystal On Light that we just got for "reasons" casually transformating into waifu bait due to being casually half human,that casually still completely retain her mind unlike many voidsents making her a very good source of information, that casually not only is the only remaining Memoria user but also 300% more honorable and compassive than any other voidsent up to date. Dont forget the Azem crystal mcguffing "just in case we need it"

Even suspension of belief has its limits. We are being railroaded so hard with the entire world setting bending to the plot that is almost laughable on this patch

[aveyond-dreams]

If nothing else I just hope that in 7.0 we get a main story that doesn't generate 680+ pages worth of critique. There were errors in Endwalker. Acknowledging and remedying them is the best way to move forward and to create something better in the future.

However, given that some players are eager to shut down discussions that go against the prescribed reading of the story it is very difficult to get the feedback out there that isn't immediately followed up with different variations of some of the comments already posted here.

I would gladly recommend the story of Heavensward or Shadowbringers to anyone. I would not do so for Endwalker. Understand the reasons why people feel this way, and maybe 7.0 will be something that doesn't cause such controversy.

[VelKallor]

If nothing else I just hope that in 7.0 we get a main story that doesn't generate 680+ pages worth of critique

That you think that that those pages in any way represents more than 0.0000000001% of anyone, is where you keep making the same mistake.

Acknowledging and remedying them is the best way to move forward and to create something better in the future.

..in YOUR opinion.

However, given that some players are eager to shut down discussions that go against the prescribed reading of the story it is very difficult to get the feedback out there that isn't immediately followed up with different variations of some of the comments already posted here.

When you cease this mantra that you 'speak for many" or that "there is general consensus" etc, maybe you will have more to say that others want to hear.

I would not do so for Endwalker.

I would.

[Ayche]

All stories are built on some level of coincidence.

[Theodric]

You are missing the point. The memoriant, the ones even capable of this, are supposed to be dead. ALL of them. Thats the x factor, the one thing they didnt expect, didnt account for. Voidsent cannot die, but they CAN be permanently crystallised.

The balance of power has shifted...oddly enough because of Zenos. In death, he handed us a deadly weapon.

Let's balance it out by crystallising some of the Scions, then. Permanently.

I really hope we see a major death for a character of importance soon. Something to show that the new storyline isn't going to pull any punches and to truly shake things up as we enter the game's second era.

That you think that that those pages in any way represents more than 0.0000000001% of anyone, is where you keep making the same mistake.

Many of the people posting in the thread in question have been invested in the game and discussing the story and worldbuilding for almost as long as the game as existed. To pretend as if their opinions are irrelevant or a minority - especially with the usual rabid attempts to handwave any criticism as some sort of extreme position - strikes me as rather counterproductive.

Also not too sure why you and certain other posters insist on pointing out that a poster's contributions to the forum are a personal opinion. Once again I will point it out - nobody is obligated to post disclaimers alongside each and every post.

[Lauront]

Also not too sure why you and certain other posters insist on pointing out that a poster's contributions to the forum are a personal opinion. Once again I will point it out - nobody is obligated to post disclaimers alongside each and every post.

Something people like the above, as well as the Strikers of the world, definitely don't do. AwesomeJr's sig is rather accurate.

[Kes13a]

Or maybe they are simply agitated at the ball being seriously dropped for the current story direction.

I have little problem with them expressing their opinion, but not everyone shares it, so was the ball dropped for everyone? no. I enjoyed Endwalker, were there problems, yes, but I still enjoyed it.

the OP enjoys... virtually nothing about it or the game. they have posted countless criticisms of their experience which I cannot identify with. so it truly is my hope that they are able to find something they ACTUALLY ENJOY, because thats better for their health and mental well being. I learned early in life if you dont enjoy the game or the rules... dont play the game.

not saying they are not entitled to their opinions or likes and wants, but as with most things and feelings of that nature, they are not shared by everyone. they do not like the game. that is evident. so if they can find one they do, they will be a lot happier in life. life is too short to waste time being upset at things you cannot change.... such as how a game story is written, produced, released etc...

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

However, given that some players are eager to shut down discussions that go against the prescribed reading of the story it is very difficult to get the feedback out there that isn't immediately followed up with different variations of some of the comments already posted here.

The fact that you and other certain people are still posting here sharing your grievances proves this is nonsense. Nobody is being shutdown.
Disagreement and opposite opinions is not 'Shutting down Discussion' nobody has that power except an Admin or a Mod
Also there are PLENTY of people who agree with you. and arent afraid to show support.

So please, stop saying this crap. Stop with this "Im being silenced"
You and your friends.

Also not too sure why you and certain other posters insist on pointing out that a poster's contributions to the forum are a personal opinion. Once again I will point it out - nobody is obligated to post disclaimers alongside each and every post.

Of course not...but by doing so, you leave yourself open to wrongful interpretations
Wanna know how you can stop this?...by being clear the 1st time, and saying IMO. Words like "Many People" is not voicing YOUR opinion.
Its basic English.

And its laughable that you and aveyond dont seem capable of grasping that concept.