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    Atreides's Avatar
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    The one critique I agree with in this thread is that we are on a power trip indeed. It doesn't feel like we struggle at any time, gone are the days where we get our ass handed by a foe that is far superior to us like Zenos in Stormblood. We always come out on top, undefeated. Even if the situation seems dire for the others it is not for the WoL. Sure there is emotional struggle but we are too powerful as it is now.
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    The one critique I agree with in this thread is that we are on a power trip indeed. It doesn't feel like we struggle at any time, gone are the days where we get our ass handed by a foe that is far superior to us like Zenos in Stormblood. We always come out on top, undefeated. Even if the situation seems dire for the others it is not for the WoL. Sure there is emotional struggle but we are too powerful as it is now.
    Didn't that just happen in EW when Zenos basically abducts us, steals our body, and forces us to fight our way back as a relative weakling?
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    The one critique I agree with in this thread is that we are on a power trip indeed. It doesn't feel like we struggle at any time, gone are the days where we get our ass handed by a foe that is far superior to us like Zenos in Stormblood. We always come out on top, undefeated. Even if the situation seems dire for the others it is not for the WoL. Sure there is emotional struggle but we are too powerful as it is now.
    Yeah power scaling is in an awful spot but it was to be expected.

    You either face gimmicks or have stakes for other people
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    is it vegan burger?
    All I can confirm is he communicates only in grunts and nods. And an occasional harumph
    Just imagining a scene where he and WoL just grunt, nod, and punch their own palms while the rest of the scions watch in pure confusion.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Just imagining a scene where he and WoL just grunt, nod, and punch their own palms while the rest of the scions watch in pure confusion.
    well, WoL IS a bit of a himbo.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Just imagining a scene where he and WoL just grunt, nod, and punch their own palms while the rest of the scions watch in pure confusion.
    I want this now, with Thancred in the background facepalming.
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    Male healers aren't exactly all that revolutionary. Hope in FFXIII, Anders in Dragon Age, etc. I don't consider that something so unique to as be worthy of praise based off that alone. I dislike how the story handled Alphinaud and the unceremonious way in which he upgraded to a Sage. Seeing him be given his AF set by his mom wasn't compelling. It only solidified the image of him as a spoiled noble kid.

    In any case no one here stands to lose from adding some masculine men to the cast that are a step above the guys we've already gone on adventures with. If I had to tolerate the likes of Alphinaud and G'raha Tia then I'm sure that those who are opposed to such men joining the cast will just have to exercise the same patience that I had to.
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    Player SentioftheHoukai's Avatar
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    Nyx Deorum
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Male healers aren't exactly all that revolutionary. Hope in FFXIII, Anders in Dragon Age, etc. I don't consider that something so unique to as be worthy of praise based off that alone. I dislike how the story handled Alphinaud and the unceremonious way in which he upgraded to a Sage. Seeing him be given his AF set by his mom wasn't compelling. It only solidified the image of him as a spoiled noble kid.

    In any case no one here stands to lose from adding some masculine men to the cast that are a step above the guys we've already gone on adventures with. If I had to tolerate the likes of Alphinaud and G'raha Tia then I'm sure that those who are opposed to such men joining the cast will just have to exercise the same patience that I had to.
    To be fair, ever since they changed it WE get our Artifact Gear "handed to us" as well. Not saying that this is a good thing, but still....

    Ah, I remember the days when you had to EARN the best gear for your class in an MMO. What halcyon days they were, full of kicking, and screaming and Barrens chatting. Still better than this method, though I fully entice anyone with misgivings to come forward. I accept all comers. ;3
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    To be fair, ever since they changed it WE get our Artifact Gear "handed to us" as well. Not saying that this is a good thing, but still....

    Ah, I remember the days when you had to EARN the best gear for your class in an MMO. What halcyon days they were, full of kicking, and screaming and Barrens chatting. Still better than this method, though I fully entice anyone with misgivings to come forward. I accept all comers. ;3
    In what world is artifact gear the best? It's just glam a week after it was handed out, never mind when people actually got around to anything above Expert.

    I mean, maybe if you could augmented versions from past expansions. Which did have to be earned, whether through grinding, Eureka, or an Extreme, so your complaint still makes no sense.
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Ah, I remember the days when you had to EARN the best gear for your class in an MMO.
    AF gear is level 89, not 90, the CRAFTED GEAR was superior to the AF gear on day one.
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