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  1. #1
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I can't say I'm terribly intrigued by the post-patch storyline so far, at least compared to the post-MSQ bits of the other expansions. The cliffhangers have been too vague to really get me excited for what's coming next and it seems like they're opting to use the Endwalker zones mostly for the various side stories rather then the MSQ this go-around, though I feel like that's partly a consequence of how disjointed they are compared to the prior expansions.

    I'm mostly wondering what this "great change" coming to the world hinted at in the Rising quests is going to be.
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    I'm mostly wondering what this "great change" coming to the world hinted at in the Rising quests is going to be.
    We do know the Void storyline will be wound up prior to 7.0, Yoshi said as much. No doubt we will know more in time.
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    It's okay. But so far we have slapped two of the archfiends like they're nothing and they died, no second battle etc they simply got crystalized. I hope for more plot twists because WoL is now the Final Fantasy equivalent of Captain Tsubasa where they can never lose.

    Vrtra : "My sister.... a Dragon that used to protect me, daughter of Midgardsormr, she never returned from the Dark Portal" (sorry, wrong game) I mean from "the Void".

    WoL : I went there and slapped two archfiends lol ur sister is weak"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lieri View Post
    It's okay. But so far we have slapped two of the archfiends like they're nothing and they died, no second battle etc they simply got crystalized. I hope for more plot twists because WoL is now the Final Fantasy equivalent of Captain Tsubasa where they can never lose.
    I think SE view losing as us wiping. We obviously aren't going to let that happen because we're gamers so our character will always win in the story except when they do something like they did with Zenos in Stormblood.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Oh good to know I wasn't the only one disappointed with the MSQ this go, it feels like I am in a bad anime filler arc in my opinion. I liked the visuals and all but the actual story just seems...dull. This may be in part to I know I will never see characters who should rightfully be handling this involved because they are locked behind doing a trial series, all ShB role quests, and Void Quests. I will also say the main villain just being the "Meanwhile in Garlemal- The Void" hasn't been very interesting especially when it is just a FF4 copy paste name/look person thus far and there isn't much to make the character not just a banking on nostaglia mess. I find this very odd after Eden basically did FF8 in FF14 terms and had proved they can make a story based on that nostalgia without directly copy/pasting stuff.

    Can I also throw in how much of a mess having a trial that was higher ilvl then the dungeon was for all my "return for story only" friends? So many people I knew had to stop and turn around to gear up a bit more as they were sitting between 575-585 and it was a common issue I saw in NN as well. I would say for a game that encourages people to do just as I described having that high an ilvl wall was a bit of a misstep. Admittedly this shouldn't be taken into my enjoyment of the patch but hearing how many people I knew have anger at this exact thing obviously didn't sit well with me, especially after there really was little point for that to be MSQ at all in my opinion.

    My overall take away is the game couldn't hold my attention and as something else released the same day I went to play that instead after completing the MSQ and raid storylines. I did mean to check out Island Sanctuary but again the game just hasn't been able to hold my attention.

    Edit: Can I also say how much I hate I got pigeonholed into ignoring my former choices on Zenos? So if I picked in SB I did want to try to be his friend and then picked "That I can't deny" I guess that never mattered huh?
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    Last edited by Xeronia; 08-28-2022 at 06:57 PM.

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    Vel Kallor
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    WoL : I went there and slapped two archfiends lol ur sister is weak"
    You are missing the point. The memoriant, the ones even capable of this, are supposed to be dead. ALL of them. Thats the x factor, the one thing they didnt expect, didnt account for. Voidsent cannot die, but they CAN be permanently crystallised.

    The balance of power has shifted...oddly enough because of Zenos. In death, he handed us a deadly weapon.
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    Basically plot armor galore: Almost as soon as we arrive we casually find ex-Zenos avatar, that casually reacts to the Crystal On Light that we just got for "reasons" casually transformating into waifu bait due to being casually half human,that casually still completely retain her mind unlike many voidsents making her a very good source of information, that casually not only is the only remaining Memoria user but also 300% more honorable and compassive than any other voidsent up to date. Dont forget the Azem crystal mcguffing "just in case we need it"

    Even suspension of belief has its limits. We are being railroaded so hard with the entire world setting bending to the plot that is almost laughable on this patch
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    Last edited by Bhearil; 08-28-2022 at 09:00 PM.

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    If nothing else I just hope that in 7.0 we get a main story that doesn't generate 680+ pages worth of critique. There were errors in Endwalker. Acknowledging and remedying them is the best way to move forward and to create something better in the future.

    However, given that some players are eager to shut down discussions that go against the prescribed reading of the story it is very difficult to get the feedback out there that isn't immediately followed up with different variations of some of the comments already posted here.

    I would gladly recommend the story of Heavensward or Shadowbringers to anyone. I would not do so for Endwalker. Understand the reasons why people feel this way, and maybe 7.0 will be something that doesn't cause such controversy.
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    If nothing else I just hope that in 7.0 we get a main story that doesn't generate 680+ pages worth of critique
    That you think that that those pages in any way represents more than 0.0000000001% of anyone, is where you keep making the same mistake.

    Acknowledging and remedying them is the best way to move forward and to create something better in the future.
    ..in YOUR opinion.

    However, given that some players are eager to shut down discussions that go against the prescribed reading of the story it is very difficult to get the feedback out there that isn't immediately followed up with different variations of some of the comments already posted here.
    When you cease this mantra that you 'speak for many" or that "there is general consensus" etc, maybe you will have more to say that others want to hear.

    I would not do so for Endwalker.
    I would.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-28-2022 at 09:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    You are missing the point. The memoriant, the ones even capable of this, are supposed to be dead. ALL of them. Thats the x factor, the one thing they didnt expect, didnt account for. Voidsent cannot die, but they CAN be permanently crystallised.

    The balance of power has shifted...oddly enough because of Zenos. In death, he handed us a deadly weapon.
    Let's balance it out by crystallising some of the Scions, then. Permanently.

    I really hope we see a major death for a character of importance soon. Something to show that the new storyline isn't going to pull any punches and to truly shake things up as we enter the game's second era.


    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    That you think that that those pages in any way represents more than 0.0000000001% of anyone, is where you keep making the same mistake.
    Many of the people posting in the thread in question have been invested in the game and discussing the story and worldbuilding for almost as long as the game as existed. To pretend as if their opinions are irrelevant or a minority - especially with the usual rabid attempts to handwave any criticism as some sort of extreme position - strikes me as rather counterproductive.

    Also not too sure why you and certain other posters insist on pointing out that a poster's contributions to the forum are a personal opinion. Once again I will point it out - nobody is obligated to post disclaimers alongside each and every post.
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